momo2* Really they dont shave anymore? i had my dd 9 months ago at one of the top hospitals in my country and i definitly was advised before hand that it needed to be done before the O R. ↑
Wow. This is the most paranoid thread I've read in a loooong time. Don't use christianity as a cover up for your insecurity. It is not the "christian thing to do" to be a paranoid, obsessive, insecure prude. 1) You need counseling, because your feelings are way over the top and 2) your wife is feeding your insecurities by telling you stories about male doctors. You both need help. ↑
yes, they still shave pubic hair, and right after insert a folly cathedor.(by the way, how is it possible to do that without handling the clitorius?(immpossible!)) fortunatly it was a female nurse the whole way through for us. we made it through without any males involved. i suppose when i think about some of the early incidents(the other pregnancy and the other doctor) i still get a little emotional about it. and i do check this post from time to time. as far as getting an exam, myt wife was examined almost everytime she went. and one particular vulgar procedure the doctor places a finger in both the vagina and rectum at the same time. i am sorry folks, we have to draw the line somewhere. why would anyone agree to such a perverted procedure? to me, using a male doctor or nurse for this stuff is like taking a candy bar off the shelf, taking a bite off, sealing the wrapper, putting it back on the shelf, and expect no one to be offended, and act as though it were still brand new. would you want to purchase and eat that candy bar? and also, its not about insecurity. i know my wife would not cheat on me, i just think it is plain wrong. ↑
You really come across as a paranoid individual. You strike me as the type of husband that is opposed to your wife breast feeding the baby because you perceive her breasts as being yours and the baby nursing violates the sense of possession that you feel towards your wife's body. You need some serious counseling!! ↑
What is so wrong with you guys? I mean it isn't pleasant for us either. We don't dream about this. It's a DOCTORS VISIT!!!! I really think theropy would be good for the guys who get sooo upset about another dog near your toys. I mean come on. How about being supportive instead of insecure? ↑
mr panic-you were worried about the men getting aroused by looking at your wife and examining her, but did you ever wonder whether that nurse that inserted that cathader and as you say had to touch the clitoris got aroused? how many of the women who are in there get aroused by looking at a woman?if men arent in the profession to deliver babies and are only there for the women and money, then why are the women in that profession? as far as the exam where they place a finger in the vagina and the rectum what was that exam for because my sister had 2 kids and never mentioned this at all? ↑
this is over a year old and you are still fuming about it? you have a child spend time with it instead of rehashing this over and over. we all understand that you were upset, but over a year later and you are still worked up over it. i think that it may be time for you to see a counselor or seek some type of professional help. i am sorry if that comes off as rude not meaning it that way, but you have a baby that needs your full attention spend time with you family and let this go. it is over and done with and you resolved the problem by having females in the operating room, didnt you? all this hostility that you still have cant be good for you or your family. take care ↑
Mrpanicatm...I have followed this thread since it began, and I wanted to ask you this: If your wife were dying in child birth at the side of the road, and the only help to come along was a male doctor, and he had to do an internal exam... which would end up saving both lives, wouldn't you be glad he came along? And... if you and your wife were soooo offended by "one particularly vulgar exam" which involved the doctor putting a finger in the vagina and the rectum at the same time -- why would you consent to it? I've been to the doctor's office and REFUSED various tests / exams due to being uncomfortable. For me... I find that I do best when I ask ahead of time what specifically will be done. And... i ask you...exactly WHAT exam required a finger to be insterted into the anus?? Thats a load of shit. Name me the exam that required a finger in the anus and the vagina at the same time during pregnancy... I'm calling your bluff. There ISN"T ONE -- I JUST asked my OB that question, and she said -- and I quote "bullshit". The only test involving the anus at ALL in pregnancy is the Group B Strep Test... and that involves a q-tip touching the outer rim of the anus in a circular motion. Nothing inserted at all. Sooo... if the doctor DID do that... you need to find out why, and get his medical notes, and then sue him. ↑
AMEN-WRIGHTOFWAY- I am glad that I am not the only one who thought that was bullshit. I think that his wife is telling him this stuff just to get him stirred up and he is buying it. If the doc really did do that then they need to file a complaint against him because they shouldnt have. Like you said if they didnt want the exam because it was too intimate or personal or for religious beliefs then they should have refused it. Maybe one of them has gotten fixed so that they will no longer have to worry about having male doctors during childbirth. ↑
MrPanicman... I am guessing that you have NO idea where the clitoris is....b/c the only thing that has to be done to insert a foley cath is to open the vagina using a gloved hand... two fingers... one on each of the labia...usually w/ the palm of the elbow of the nurse facing towards the patients head. The Clitoris is above the uretha (where the cath is inserted)... the nurses hand is placed BELOW the clitoris. EVEN if they did accidently touch it.... it takes great effort and CLOSE attention to insert a staight or foley cath.... they have no time to "think" about anything else other than getting the cath in.... ↑
WrightofWay, and Slowpoke. I agree, I think this "man" is just another Troll on a forum just begging for attention. If "he'' really is this paranoid... someone ...please...commit him into a psych ward for a SERIOUS mental evaluation.... ↑
that is what i think mrs shelton. especially since this was like his 4 or5 kid he should know what goes on at the appointments by now. i think he is just trying to scare other men and cause them to be paranoid everytime that their lady goes to the doc. ↑
I agree. I have seen a lot of Trolls on these forums, and they are here to cause nothing but trouble. I have found the easiest way to rid of them is to report them, and click on the "poor taste?" icon next to the posts... The moderators eventually get the idea that these people need to be removed form the forums.. :) ↑
oh....you think im a troll because my opinion is differant from yours? i hope this forum has been educational to some men that may not be aware of what goes on at the male gynecologist office. maybe they will have a differant view too if they read. i still maintain my position, and the reason why i posted i suppose i wanted to see if anyone else felt the same way, however it looks like the only people that answer questions are people in the medical field, probably a bunch of male RN OB wannabes that cant wait to get their hands dirty(pun intended) and that want to justify their position. because hey, who wants to give up what i mentioned earlier. ↑
I'm not in the medical field, and i don't think you're a troll. But... I do have some concerns about you and your wife. If you didn't want a male doctor -- how come you never asked for a referral to a female doctor in the first place? When attending appointments...did you not ask what the doctor was going to do specifically? And if you have so many children... how come you continued to use a male doctor if you were sooo uncomfortable with him? Further...with so many kids, wouldn't you have KNOWN what to expect from the doctor's examinations? And again... I ask... please advise me as to the specific procedure that was done which involved the doctor putting his fingers in the vagina and the anus at the same time? You ignored the question in your most recent post -- without a specific answer to this... I will continue to believe that you are lying -- or that you need to seek legal counsel for an inappropriate act. And last but not least... if you knew what the doctor was going to do (ie: internal exam) why consent to it?? Your story is not plausible the way you are presenting it. As for being uncomfortable with a male gynecologist... I"m sure many men and women feel the same way for various reasons... but they are smart enough in most cases to seek out services from someone they ARE comfortable with. Clearly... you and your wife were not smart enough to take this step for some reason. ↑
I think you are a troll simply b/c you have been going on and on and on and on about this SAME thing now for over 6 months. The baby has been born already... let it go... enough is enough. Some of the things you have claimed are almost obsurd. There is no exam where the fingers are placed in the rectum and vagina... If this DID happen... It's your fault that you didn't report it. If the things keep happening that you say they do... why don't you do something about it?? ↑
I agree with WRIGHTOFWAY on this. you have been asked the same questions over and over and have not answered them yet. I am not in the medical field but I do know women who have had kids and when I have asked them if they have had this test, they say no. I am a female and would rather a male look at me than a female, simply because I have had a female hit on me before. Never have I had a male do anything inappropriate to me. Also, before my doc does any exams he tells me exactly what they are checking for and tells me exactly what he is going to do. Also, he is never in the room without a female nurse supervising. If your wife was not comfortable with a male doc then she should have found a female doc before she decided to get pregnant again. I cant believe that after all these numerous problems with male docs and both of you being uncomfortable with them that she had a male doc do all of these exams. We are still waiting to know what that test was that the doc had to insert a finger into the rectum and vagina at the same time because as all of us women have said there is no such a test. Go get you and your wife some counseling before you decide to have any more kids....PLEASE...and let this go. I cant believe that you are still tripping over it..your kid is born spend time with it and use the energy that you are putting in this thread towards your kid. ↑
Rectovaginal exams are done when doctors are looking for a mass or a tipped uterus. THey are NOT done during pregnancy -- instead... ultrasounds are the preferred diagnostic tool. Since you claim to have previous children... the doctor would have already known if the uterus was tipped or not -- as it would have been discovered through a routine ultrasound, or regular pelvic exam. If he was looking for a mass... he'd have used the ultrasound -- probably an internal vaginal scan which is far more advanced at locating masses. Its interesting to note that you recommend people search the rectovaginal exam on google. Clearly -- this is what you did in order to come up with what you hoped would be a viable response that would validate your claims. Too bad you didn't really do your homework to find out that these are contraindicated during pregnancy. And even if by chance this exam WAS performed (which I highly doubt!)... the doctor would've had a nurse observe, and would've explained what he was about to do anyhow... so someone had to give consent for that to happen. If you both were not comfortable with it, you should have declined. Since you didn't... and since its been sooo long I suggest you simply get over it! And get over yourself while you're at it! I find that your story is about as realistic as a fairy tale. I do not believe any of it. Nor do I believe you have children. I think that you are merely a troll... seeking to stir up a debate on the board for you own amusement. I for one am done discussing this particular issue -- you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Last but not least here is my suggestion... go back to google and see if you can get it to tell you where your brain is at. ↑
First I wanted to state I realize this post is very old and that everything is said and done now.... But I also wanted to address some of this ridiculousness. mrpanicatm, first I would like to say I agree with you 100%. I don't think you are a troll, I don't think you need a psychologist or a psychiatrist or any kind of therapy. I think you're worries, concerns, jealousy and all your other feelings are justified. She is your wife and who cares if you are justified by American/Canadian/Western Ideals, this is how you feel period, ended. My husband feels the same way and I feel the same way about him and female doctors. I just don't like it and he doesnt like it either. I will not ever have a male obgyn, and he will never have a female urologist. It is completely acceptable to feel this way in my opinion. To everyone else who has taken it upon themselves to be judgemental, I am sure mrpanicatm was not asking for your confirmation of his feelings. He was asking what he can do, legally, to make sure his wife doesn't see another male physician. No one really cares what your opinions are and no one's opinion on the internet is going to change someone else's. What do you people get for bashing this poor man? In any case, I have my BA in Theology and nowhere in the bible does it state that a woman cannot have a male doctor. It states that lustful thoughts alone are basis for adultery but if you see a male doctor this does not mean you have lustful thoughts. This said, just because the bible permits opposite sex doctor patient relationships does not mean that everyone on the planet has to be comfortable with it! mrpanicatm, I didnt read through the entire thread. Just tried to wade through all the Bullshit, but if you go on to have your 5th child it may be beneficial for your wife to see a midwife instead of an obgyn. about 99% of midwives are female and are much more hospitable than normal obgyns as well as labor is usually much easier with fewer complications as they are big on letting things happen "naturally".... :) OK I am getting down off my soap box. :) ↑
My problem regarding this person is that he claims they have had multiple children, and yet each time he is insecure about using a male OB... You'd think after one, or maybe even two bad experiences... they would use their own judgement and use a different doctor... OR better yet, switch doctors, AND report what had been happening.... It's their own fault that they are putting themselves back into the situation time and time again for this doctor to continue to be unprofessional. ↑
I agree with your point MrsShelton, but in reality, a lot of people dont have a choice about who they go to. Depending on insurance polciies, whether they are HMO, PPO, state or God forbid Kaiser... or if they are our of the USA. A lot of people dont have a lot of options. But you are right in the sense, if they have the option to choose they needed to live by the motto, you burn me once shame on you, you burn me twice, shame on me. I just don't think all the bashing is necessary let alone mature in the situation. ↑
i know, i know, the thread is almost a year old but i REALLY couldnt help myself here....mrpanic you need HELP. for real. and some anatomy lessons. does your wife have a 'clit' the size of a mack truck? the urethra is nowhere near the clitoris. as for male obgyns mine is male and i adore him. generally i saw his nurse practitioner just b/c its hard to get an appt w/him b/c he has to cancel often due to deliveries but i saw him again today for the first time in over a year and he was so gentle and he is so kind. the day i met him i knew he was going to deliver my children. he has done many procedures on me as well and i wouldnt leave his practice for anything. when the time comes for me to actually give birth, if i end up w/one of the female drs i will be very upset. as far as shaving AFTER inserting a catheter...ummmm....no. i dont know where you live but they dont shave vaginas here...if you want it shaved prior to a vaginal delivery then you can shave it...baby is coming out regardless. if a catheter is inserted then a c-section is being performed at which point why would they care about hair on the vagina anyway...theyre about to cut open a belly, not braid pubic hair. your posts make no sense. ↑
