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If no one can help u on this forum with ur questions there is a web site devoted to the baby whisper and a forum. I found it by googling the baby whisper, Tracy Hogg's name should be there. It has helped me when I've had questions, although pat/shh was too hard for me when dd was that young. I took the easy way out and put her on the b___b to sleep.lol. If u can't find the web site let me know and I'll give u the link.

From what I understand you're not meant to start the shh/pat method until 13 weeks, I'm a big fan of Tracy Hogg's methods and at the moment dd is only 6 weeks so I'm waiting (and bf her to sleep) but you should be picking her up everytime she cries and using the method to comfort her while you are holding her, then put her down again, the first few times will take a long time. But I agree with Ciarasmom, check out the website, it's all there.

i use that method all the time and i think it works AWESOME!! but i was doing it for about 3 weeks before it really started to work now its like max 5 minutes and my guy is GONE which is nice but i didnt know you shouldnt start it before 13 weeks.. i started before that and my guy seems fine so maybe just keep trying!! gl

I'm a Baby Whisperer success story, her book is like my baby bible! Shush-pat worked for me, and I think it worked for DDT on this forum as well. You do shush-pat from when they're a newborn up until 4 months, and then after 4 months it's "pick-up/put-down". To answer your questions: 1. You shush-pat until your baby falls asleep, and then continue shush-patting for about 15-20 minutes or until your lo gets past the "jerk" phase of sleep (when baby suddenly jerks, which sometimes wakes them up). As your baby gets better at sleeping, it will take less and less time. 2. It took me about 2 weeks of this to get him to nap, and even now I sit with him for 5-10 minutes as he falls asleep with my hand on him (no shush-patting required anymore). If I'd been more consistent I think it would have gone faster. 3. Yes you pick them up as soon as they start crying in earnest. You don't pick them up if they fuss/whine, you shush-pat for that part, but if they start an actual cry, you pick them up, calm them down with shush-pat in your arms, and as soon as baby is calm again, you lie them down and continue shush-pat. It feels like it takes for freaking ever to train your lo to sleep, but its a very valuable skill you're teaching them, and once your lo has learned it your life will be so much easier. Stick with it, and be consistent and persistent. Good luck!

mamagoose, thank you so much! i want to continue trying it but i got very frustrated with it yesterday because she kept waking up and i was in there over an hour in all trying to get her to nap. she seems to fall asleep quickly but then cant stay asleep. i gave in and rocked her which is usually so easy i just dont know if thats the best solution though. i am going to try the shh/pat again this week and really try to stick with it. we've also darkened her room this weekend, aleady have a fan for white noise, and i am going to watch her sleep cues better. we swaddle her, too, but she gets frustrated with her arms and ends up swinging them all over the place! i wonder if the miracle blanket is really all that good? anyone have one? well i will try the shh/pat again, please continue to let me hear some more success stories! it keeps me motivated...

As mamagoose has already said the "shush/pat" method worked for me, and I highly recommend it. I can't remember exactly how long it took for it to finally work (maybe 2-3 weeks). The key is to be persistent and consistent. And yes, I also remember standing in his room for over an hour before he fell asleep with my hand cramping up. Just keep in mind that it will all become easier eventually. Now at 11 weeks old my ds falls asleep on his own in his crib. All I do is put him down, give him his soother (which he usually spits out after 5-10mins anyway...he loves his hand/thumb right now lol) and leave the room. I go check on him after 10-15mins and 75% of the time he is out as a light. No fussing or crying. Good luck!

cubbie: just to clarify the "shush-pat" method can be started from birth. The PU/PD method will not really work for an infant under 4 months because it stimulates them too much.