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Oh! So sorry...I addressed my reply to indobray, when I meant to respond to freebird! Sorry ladies! Freebird...congrats on your twins, and thx for explaining one of the benefits of being monitored. That's a good point about being able to choose before hand whether or not you want to try to conceive if too many mature follicles are seen beforehand.

I haven't read all of the recent posts here, but the last few. I have a question - for those who cite insurance issues as a reason they are taking unprescribed clomid - what happens if you concieve multiples?? You will then have BIGGER issues w/finances & insurance. Imagine maybe getting pregnant w/quads and the bills that would rack up!!!!

In response to the insurance question....I don't know about anyone else, but our medical insurance is amazing. We just don't have any kind of infertility coverage, and they're very picky about what is or is not considered infertility. I think there are a lot of people in the same boat...no infertility insurance, but a baby or babies would certainly be covered under regular insurance...it's just getting them here that's hard! Good luck!

yeah, babs nailed it...my insurance covers pre- peri- and postnatal healthcare, but not infertility.

That's the same insurance issue I had, as a result I'm paying bills bills bills now so I certainly see your point. I think what Tripletmom was getting at though is all of the expenses that insurance doesn't cover become doubled or tripled if you end up with multiples. Daycare, for instance. I could have afforded it for 1 child, but for 2 it's a bit too much (if I could even find one that has room for 2 infants) and now I will need to stop working so we lose an income. Luckily we can get by on DH's salary but things will be tight for a while. Double the diapers, formula, baby gear, it really adds up. Again, it's not my place to tell people what to do/not do, I'm just putting it out there as food for thought. Your situation is probably different than mine, I'm just letting others know what issues I'm dealing with that I might not be if I were carrying a singleton.

Yea, most definitely it will be double/triple the cost if we conceive multiples vs. singletons...but taking clomid prescribed AND u/p will yield that same risk. The main point of taking the drug is to (hopefully) develop more than one mature follicle as to increase the chance of ovulation and conceiving...so ALL clomid users risk having multiples and subsequently risk the huge cost and demand of raising multiples. I'm not gonna lie...that's a scary thought for me...the demand of raising multiples...although I would love each one no less. However, the thought of not completing my family - not giving my toddler another sibling to grow up with - is even scarier. The scariest thought of all is the health risks to the multiples! That's something I don't take lightly. But again, we all are taking that chance when we take clomid - even those who take it prescribed. Of course Freebird, you raised an excellent point earlier about those being monitored having the choice to not ttc if too many follicles are visualized...I wonder if those who had triplets saw the 3 or more mature follicles and decided to take the chance anyhow of ttc...and they just happened to be in the rare 0.5% who ended up with all 3 eggs fertilized and with triplets? I would be curious to know if there are any triplets moms reading. Please don't mistake my curiosity with being judgmental at all...I'm new to all the infertility treatment stuff and I'd be interested in knowing if those who received monitoring and ended up with triplets saw beforehand that they had 3 (or more) ripe follicles...and what they thought about that. Were you hopeful that you might have triplets or were you scared to death, but just totally doubted that it would happen to you? Just curious. God bless all the hopeful moms, and even more so, God bless all the babies.

Oh, and financially speaking, yes it would very hard if we conceived multiples, but like most families, we would struggle significantly to begin with, but overall we would get by. Again, I'm not minimizing this...just the thought of childcare ALONE would be extraordinary - like you mentioned Freebird. But I'd rather have less monetarily to have a full family, than to live more comfortably and raise my toddler alone. Then you might ask, why not make the sacrifice now and go for broke (literally) to pay for the full b__wn infertility treatments? For me the answer is that (1) Clomid is considered to be a 'low risk' drug so the chances of having MAJOR complications are rare. (2) If any major complications arise from taking the drug, I could stop taking it and get medical treatment if necessary (that would not be an insurance issue). And lastly (3) once conception takes place, my pregnancy would be monitored the same whether I took clomid prescribed OR u/p, so I don't see where the *babies* of u/p clomid takers are at any more risk than the babies of women that took it with a prescription...although I think the women *themselves* might be more at risk because some of the stronger side affects of clomid (like hyperstimulation syndrome), but I don't see how the babies are at any additional risk. If I'm wrong, I'm certainly open to being corrected, because I sincerely don't want to bring upon any harm to a baby. But it was after considering all of the above, that I decided the benefits far out weigh the any risk and decided to try clomid u/p.

Hello hope everyone is well?. I actually went 2 months without a period some suggested perimenopause, however my doc did tests and im not thankfully. I am now waiting to see if i am pregnant this time OR back to the drawing board?! We cant understand why we cant conceive...can slow moving sperm REALLY stop you getting pregnant?. I am into my second bottle of OVULEX now i am trying them to increase our chances but i dont think they work.

I was not aware that you could get u/p clomid. My DH and I have been trying for 16 months now. I am 35 and he is 24 and we desperately want a baby. Where exactly can you buy u/p clomid. I would love to try it. I have been waiting for over a month now for a specialist and would like my BFP now. Please help. Where can I buy it?

Hi! I've used http://medsmex.com, and done very well...although I'd used it before with no problems, so I felt okay using it unmonitored again. They do take a while...sometimes a little over a month, and I'm in Texas, so pretty close to Mexico. You can also search online for clomid with no prescription...some of the pharmacies will write you a prescription online, thus making it a little better for everyone concerned as far as the law goes. My best friend has used http://freegaragesale.com/medical.htm to buy it from other people who no longer need it, and just got a BFP. No problems at all....of course, be careful there. Be prepared to get a backlash from some people here. There are a lot of people who disagree with the choices we've made as far as our reproductive health. Good luck! I hope it works quickly and that you get a BFP soon!

Thank you so much for the information babs6219 . I will look into this more tomorrow. I am in Canada so I am not sure if they will ship here or not. I desperately need something. How long did it take your friend to get her BFP?

My friend got her BFP on the second month of Clomid at 100 mg days 3-7. She's given me hope! It'll happen! For you too, I'm sure! Good luck! At http://www.medsmex.com, it makes a reference to the international shipping costs, so they might ship to Canada. Probably worth a phone call or two to make sure it's legal. I do know that that web site is the least expensive I've found, and they carry the generic Clomid ( serophene) for (US) $10.95. That's a really good deal! Again, good luck!

Even in Canada it is an seriouse criminal offence to sell or purcahse u/p medication. Why would you put yourself or any unborn children at risk? We have a great medical system here in Canada. You can see a doctor for free & be followed in the right way. My hubby & I tried for years & are now about to deliver our twins by section on Wed. Even when followed by doctors I ended up with ovarian hyperstimulation from the fertility meds. It almost ruined our chances of ever having children. Why the risk? Is it really worth it to end up never having any?

startingalloveragain, if you'll look at my prior posts, you'll see you can go online to a lot of places, pay a prescription fee, and get it that way. Or medsmex.com.....like I said....whatever works and doesn't get you in trouble, and is safe. OHSS is a risk, but you know your body better than anyone else, and you can always research the side effects and seek appropriate emergency medical care as necessary. Again, good luck!

Was that directed at me? Because I didn't pa__s along medical advice....I gave some general information as to alternatives she may have. Did I tell her to run out and buy u/p clomid from a stranger? No....I let her know that she can RESEARCH THINGS ON HER OWN, as we should all do....and that she can then proceed to make her own decisions, since she already said she knew nothing about u/p clomid prior to this board. Because, you know the lovely thing is, that she ( and I, and everyone else) have the right to do so....regardless of whether or not you approve of it. She asked for info...I tried to pa__s along some of what I've learned. And I warned her there might be more rude comments...guess I was right there, huh? I wish her, and all of you, nothing but the best. Good luck !

I am not saying I am going to do this or not going to do this. I just want to leave my options open. You are correct in saying Canada has a good health care system. However it is good and very slow. I have been waiting 6 weeks for an appointment to see a specialist and there is a 6 month waiting list. I just today asked my doctor to refer me to a city about 3 hours away because I know I can get in there in a couple of months. The risks of taking u/p clomid is going to be the same if my doctor prescribes it which I know they will when I finally get in to see them and have the other tests done. Once again I thank you very much babs6219 for letting me know that there is options out there if need be. As I told my family doctor, I am not getting any younger and am getting tired of waiting.