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Hi! I had to have 4 c-sections due to an immature pelvis, long unproductive labor (my fault..tried too long). I had numerous probs with a couple of the babies including blood transfusions, etc. All is well now, but not until I had a total hysterectomy. A conditions sometimes arises from uterine surgeries, adenomyosis is an overgrowth of muscle tissue into the endometrium of the uterus. It causes horrendous bleeding with large clots (like pieces of liver) and naturally, a great deal of pain with each menstrual cyle. I had scarring on my ovaries, tubes and my bladder literally had to be cut away from my uterus during the hysto. I want to a__sure you, c-sections have their place! I just feel they are being misrepresented as 1: less painful (I disagree) and 2: less damaging. I can attest to both counts. I wish speedy, productive labors with minimal damage and excellent outcomes for all women. But either the doctors saying c-sections prevent damage aren't following up with their patients years later or they are being grossly negligent.

see on my last c which was #2 they told me i had alot of scar tissue and my uterus was adhered to bladder adn rectum i want a 3rd but i am worried about the risks,and later problems

Hey, Me...you must be like me, a "really good healer" which has it's down side. People like us make extra collagen, thus more scar tissue. Go ahead and have your 3rd baby, just consult with the OB before your c-section and ask him/her to remove existing scar tissue. Do not take vitamin E right before or for a few weeks after your next c-section (it aids in scar formation). I am concerned for you, do you have an irritable bladder now? How is your bowel function? Is there any possibility of a v____al delivery under very monitored conditions? I do not want you to miss out on another child if your heart and home have room for one. If you do have another and then begin experiencing bladder, bowel and menstrual problems jump on them quickly ok? Rather than suffer for years, monitor your bladder and bowels before, during and after your next child and ask them to eliminate as much trauma to your surrounding organs as they can (like don't handle the insides so rougly...etc.) Good luck, and please keep me up to date on what you decide!

hello...well the i dont seem to suffer any problems as far as bowel....now the only problem with my bladder is when it is full it can be very painful until i can empty it....my ob says no way to VBAC....he says another c is ok..he says he feels 100% confident and it will be ok....i am sooo scared though...i am not scared of a c just what could happen....and he told me i would be at an increased risk of bowel and bladder damage....also a higher chance of bleeding so did you have alot of scar tissue after your 1st even? cause after my 2nd is when they told me it was bad...also did they ever tell u not to have anymore and you did?

This is where YOU must be your own best advocate. Find out how existing scar tissue can be removed without making more scar tissue, discuss this until YOU are satisfied your OB understands how important this is to you and your future health. I had my 2nd c-section only 11 months after my first so I don't recall there really being time for too much scar tissue formation (but of course, there was...) However, when I had my 3rd c in 3 years the attending OB told me it had to be my last as he could see my daughter's feet through the scar (and she was only 5.5 lbs!!) it was with her that I required 4 units of whole blood. I was told not to have any more c-sections because of scar tissue then so I must have formed some with the first 2 boys. Nature had other plans and on my first son's 4th birthday I went into labor with my 4th child. I had quite a bit of scar tissue and had a tubal done as they told me absolutely no more babies...It was after that when I finally had regular menstrual cycles that I started having severe bleeding probs, lots of clots each month, horrific cramps and bladder problems. All that nastiness aside, the kids were worth it, I just wish I hadn't suffered so long with the side effects of c-sections. I offer you this, after your 3rd (and final?) baby watch and treat all abnormal/painful/inconvenient issues that come up and if necessary, get them treated surgically. I went for years before they finally did a hysterectomy and that was the best thing that happened to me! No more bladder stuck to uterus, no more painful, messy periods etc. Just remember, nothing is unfixable, so when you are done with your last baby just take control and keep track of your health, don't let anyone tell you it has nothing to do with your cesareans, it may and often times does. The babies are worth it, though, aren't they? We are lucky we had this option, 75 years ago we and our babies could have died. Talk to you soon. I have a Calculus cla__s starting in the morning (Nursing school) but I will check tomorrow and see if you have more questions.

thanks...i am anursing student also....i am getting my BSN RN.... :)

Glad to speak with a fellow Nursing student! I was going for my BSN, but got accepted for a__sociate RN at the school I was getting my pre-reqs with soooooo....an RN is an RN as far as pay goes, plus here in Oregon it is virtually impossible to get into any Nursing school so I am most fortunate, I needed a 3.9 GPA and all my cla__ses save Nursing-only out of the way just to get in... Many of my fellow cla__smates weren't so lucky even with 3.75 GPA's...it's that compet_tive here. So I will take this RN and do the RN to Bachelor's program once I am working. Best of luck to you and keep me up to date on your life, health and schooling!

good luck to you in school i have 2 semesters left....OB so i am excited! we are going ahead with the 3rd pg so i am ttc :)

OB, fantastic, maybe that rotation will put you totally at ease, like what the best outcomes for you that are possible. Good luck on all you are taking on, you will make a great Mom of 3 and a great nurse too.

thank you and you too!!!!! i am confident that #3 will be fine...there is minimal risk of mortality and i can handle the rest to have another beautiful baby! they are blessings...i would have 5 if i could, but not realistic so this will be the last....we may adopt though you never know....god bless

so how far are you in school? i can not wait for my OB!!!!!! i start clinicals in the AM......i am psyched and i can not sleep...so how is school for you? talk to you soon....we can be school buddies!!!!

I am first year nursing, you are ahead of me...I am already a working EMT so that helps with the street knowlege, but now I need to get down the theory, etc. I am excited to hear any thing you find unusual or interesting. I bet you are going to have a blast in OB! You can relate to the laboring moms and offer support either way they deliver. I pray they all have quick, easy deliveries, don't you? In a perfect world we would labor just long enough to get to a bed or hospital, push a couple gentle pushes and out slides our little ones...ha-ha. I actually have friends who did darn near that very thing!! Funny, they each only have 1-3 kids...I would have had 10 (not really) if that was my experience. Anyhow, get some sleep, you have so much happening tomorrow!! I am jealous, but know that it took so much work just to get in the Nursing program that it will all come in due time. Good luck tomorrow you will shine!

thank you so much, and i am off to bed. also remember if you need any help and i could offer any let me know. bye:)

Hi Kasy, how did your OB rotation go today???? I am so curious! I noticed you wrote to Rae on the excited/just found out post. What a sad situation for her. I feel I want to hug her and support her. What a brave young lady she is. I don't think she fully grasps that choosing a c-section will alleviate bonding issues, as we all pointed out, that has clearly already begun. At any rate, she is a loving girl to even consider making such a phenomenol gift of adoption. I admire her. I will definately be asking you advice. I am a returning student, so I sometimes feel "old" compared to the fresh out of high school students. So far, being a more mature student has been very beneficial. You are probably not as old as I, but you do have the same responsibilites, home, family, job, husband...makes it difficult but brings more dimensions to our ability to relate to nursing situations. Talk to you soon.

oops, make that choosing a c-section will NOT alleviate bonding issues...

hello oh man i loved it i think i found my calling...what a great day!!!!! so how are things for you? yes, i feel so badly for her it must be a hard choice....