To Kristie H

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sahmof3 - December 20

I just saw your your reply on the "not a four letter word" thread. I never knew you had a c-section, but your wording hit chord with me. That's how I was. Kind of stunned to be having a c-section... and perplexed as to what the heck was going on with my body that even after a torturous induced labor I was only 1/2 cm. The next two were scheduled because during my 2nd pregnancy I found out that scarring of the cervix from a D&C for m/c was to blame for not dilating in my first labor. So, they were scheduled, but still had weird things happen. My daughter got fluid in her lungs because she turned WHILE the doctor was trying to deliver... actually looked up, took a breath, went back in and turned breech and had to be pulled out by her feet (which meant I had to quickly be cut wider)... and had to be in NICU and that created a few (but temporary) feeding problems. And then I went in to have my 3rd and found out I had to be under general anesthesia. Well, I basically knew what went on in a c-section by then and even when I was awake I didn't get to see my other babies (except briefly when dh was holding them, but it was a rather upsidedown view from the operating table), so that wasn't so bad, but recovery was different. Anyway, getting long-winded, but just wanted to say that that seemed to hit the nail on the head as to how I felt... especially during that first section, but then kind of in the other two when I was like, "why does something odd and out of the ordinary keep happening every time I go in to have a baby?"

 

vjr - December 20

sahmof3~ I know this was for kristie h, but please hear me out... I am truly sorry for all the pain you endured, and i wish as a mom everyone could experiance child birth with zero complications. I apologize that you were so hurt by my thread on good csections and i can understand now why you and i don't see eye to eye on this topic. I've said some hurtful stuff to you (and you to me) and i don't like myself for that, we are mom's all of us and that is the #1 hardest job in the world and the last thing we all need is to tear each other down... I'm going to try to be careful how i word things without comprimising my opinion and i hope we can get along in the future...

 

kristie h - December 20

HI sahmof3, boy have you had a hard time having kids. I have never herd of a baby doing what your DD done that must of been frightening. when i had my son my water broke on its own, after getting that drip for inducing labor i could not dialte more the 4cm, blair ended up being stressed and his heart t rate droped alot so that is why i had the c-section. I only got to hold him for 1 minute before they took him away with DH.I know this is going of track but when i was 14 i had a ruptured ovairain cyst that made me internal bleed. I was bleeding internally for 12 hours before i could not breath, walk and it would kill me every time i moved so i went to the hospital. Another 10 hours later they finally found out by ultrasound what was happening. Well i had an operation and lost over 2 liters of blodd (not including the loss of blood i had when i went to the loo to do #2. i was so stupid as i was in the toilet for such a long time where the light just turned itself off i new there was ALOT of blood but felt better after woods so i never though anything of it) anyways that left a scar that is the same a c-section scar. I think that is why i was not dialating any more then 4cm. After my son i fell pregnant which was a molar pregnancy. Only 1 in 1500 ladies have this sort of pregnancy and it can turn into cancer if they did not get all the tissue out during the D&C. I had to wait 6 months for ttc then i fell pregnant in feb this year and i lost that one just over 5 weeks i had to have a d&c for that. I am now ttc again. Well i have seen you post in the m/c forum and i was surprsied to see you there. I read your post about your friends loss and you said that you found this site when you had your loss?. That is also how i found this site, i have been coming to this site for a year now. After my next pregnancy i am done with having kids as i think my reproductive system is pretty well stuffed!! with all the things that have happend. There have been many times where you have said stuff that took the words right out of my mouth. I am sorry about the trouble you have had in bearing children, are you planing on having any more?

 

sahmof3 - December 21

Kristie...lol... you're not the only... my doctor never heard of a baby doing what my daughter did! She said she was so scared... she made the wider cut and it took three people to get her out (and here I thought they were doing a little dance on my stomach, that's what it felt like... because two were pulling and one was pushing the top of my stomach). Wow! Sounds like you went through a lot before and after (even during!!) your sections! it is disappointing to carry your babe for 9 months and then not get to hold and nurse right away! I 've seen where some c-section moms do, but I guess it depends on the circ_mstances?? I had cysts that burst, too, but I never had to have surgery for it. I did have a hernia operation when I was three, which is in my medical records, but when my doc was about to do my emergency section, with my oldest, he asked if I'd ever had abdominal surgery and I forgot (was a little loopy after 24 hours of labor and pain drugs) and he cut right over my old scar. Man, he was not happy with me. Right away he said, "There's scar tissue here, I thought you said you never had surgery." OMG... I felt tlike such an idiot!!! I also had the D&C, my three sections and knew I was going to need a uterine ablation (which I had in August), so I got my tubes tied with the 3rd section. I'm pretty sure my uterus would just fall apart if I tried another pregnancy (especially with my gargantuan babies lol). Anyway **~~baby dust~~**... I hope you get a BFP real soon and a good pregnancy! vjr- apology accepted and I'm sorry, too. I'm 32, though I wasn't acting it over there (on IC)! I really should have just stayed off your thread. Anyway, I'm not anti-c-section or even anti-elective c-section, just now I know that even scheduled ones can cause problems for babies (although most don't pull the kind of stunt my daughter did lol she's still a little monkey)... which I would never have even thought about if it hadn't happened to me... I would have thought more about how they affect the mom's recovery. It has also limited the # of kids I can have (or at least I just don't feel like my body could handle another uterine surgery, since I've had 6 now), so I am pretty touchy about it... so sorry about getting crazy!

 

vjr - December 23

sahmof3~ thank you for being honset with me I'm glad we are both able to call ourselves out for stuff we do... never feel like you need to apologize for your feelings though you are 100% int_tiled to view csections the way you do and i just think the more we all share the more we can all help other women.

 

djh - December 23

sahmof3, I have written of my c-sections previously and like you, I had a tortuously long first labor. I was young and in my mind able to do anything I put my mind to. I was told at my first prenatal visit that I had the pelvis of an 8 year-old and that I would need a c-section. At my insistance I labored for 37.5 hours of what is medically called hyperactive labor. They did not give me meds until hour 18 when the water breaking produced hypertonic uterus. As painful as that was I still did not want to be cut open and actually thought I was making progress. Finally at hour 35 or 36 I looked at the my chart and saw to my dismay that the drs. and nurses had grown tired of writing "no progress" (1.5cm) so they just used the little lines to say ditto on my notes! When my BP went up and I discovered that it had gone from Saturday to Monday afternoon I finally consented to a section. My baby was only 7.5 pounds, but that was about 5.5 pounds more than my pelvis could handle. Each of my children had to be section babies and I was crushed. As a former elite gymnast at the national level I had always expected and received top performance from my body. As for your baby turning while being delivered I had the exact same thing happen with my second son! I like to go into labor with my children so I know they are ready and I had labored for several hours with him before going to the hospital. During the section the doctor said his shoulder was presenting and as they manuevered him he changed position and took a deep breath of amniotic fluid. Within seconds of his birth he had a pneumothorax (a collapsed lung) and spent the next 21 days in the NICU. His illness was directly attributed to a c-section birth and that is why I never advocate them without dire medical need. With his birth I quickly developed a 105 degree fever and a uterine infection (c-section risk) and had to have horrific exams right after surgery. I then went home to an 11 month old and had to travel back and forth to the NICU with an infant and brand new surgical wound. With my daughter I hemorrhaged so badly due to her c-section/forceps birth (she lay transverse) I needed 4 units of whole blood. My last child came 8 weeks early due to an irritable uterus, again drs. said due to c-section scarring. So I do not advocate c-sections unless absolutely necessary. The risks are not just short-term, they are forever as I lost my uterus and ovaries several years later because my organs all scarred together. Thanks for listening, I just wanted to tell you I know the truth about c-sections too. I do not believe as well intentioned as women are that they truly know what they are getting into when they voluntarily ask for a primary c-section. It is a stand that I can back up with years of schooling for nursing as well as my own blood letting. On a happer note, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays. Sorry this is so long too LOL>

 

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