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when you delivery does the hosptial ask you if you want your baby to vaccinated? also if you dont do the MMR for your baby and they never get any of those diseases. When your child wants to have children will that be a problem?

I wasn't asked to give permission to give him the hepb shot in the hospital. They just did it. They were probably supposed to.

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/fs/gen/shouldknow.htm This is a site that I found on the US Federal website. It has information about each vaccine. It seems to lean towards being in favor of them but it had fact sheets that looked like the ones that I got when my son got his vaccinations.

Thanks JenniferB.. I have a problem believing everything that a government website has to say though. My theory is this: of course they are going to downplay the risks a__sociated with vaccines - they WANT people to get vaccinated. The government has some goal of having everyone vaccinated against everything so they aren't going to tell you that a vaccine might actually be linked to certain side effects or even infant death in some cases - especially if there isn't a proven link, only theoretical.. Look at the whole Vioxx situation and how they approved that only to find out the problems a__socaited with it. They pulled that off the market pretty quickly - but the government didn't have anything to gain from keeping it on the market either. Its my understanding that most - if not all but the influenza, vaccines are made without thimeresol, the mercury containing preservative used. Some vaccines do contain it now adays, but there is an alternate vaccine (from a different maker) that you can request. Now, if evenone has found ABSOLUTELY no link between thimeresol and autism, then why did the governement move to have drug companies produce thimeresol-free vaccines? If nothing was wrong with the ones to begin with, then it seems to me that the R&D money could have been well spent on other vaccines (AIDS, Anthrax, etc). Just a thought to ponder.

I absolutely agree with you. You really dont want me to tell you how I feel about our government right now...it could get nasty. This website could is a website about children that have been injured by vaccines. http://www.909shot.com/Issues/Injury_Compensation.htm

I dont know why I typed could in last sentence. Subtract it :0)

http://www.909shot.com/Issues/Injury_Compensation.htm the last link didn't work, sorry

Yes JenniferB - was there the other day (couldn't remember the site though) and was horrified about some of the stories. Especially the perfectly healthy 90th percentile baby that dies after the HepB shot and they put in down as SIDS. SHame on them for the coverup! I think there are many many more coverups that we don't see when it comes to vaccines. And I'm not so sure that its the "old" vaccines htat have been around forever but the newer vaccines. Now I read that the government is going to start receommendng that everyone get flu shots every year - so that will be the next thing that my kid will need to get into daycare & school. The flu vaccine is still made with the mercury preservative too.. so I will be against that one all the way.

My baby wont get the flu vaccine either. I will vaccinate for the very serious illnesses and hopefully won't be forced to give him something that I don't want to.

I am in Australia and I didn't consent to my baby being given the hepB vaccine before she left hospital. I cannot beleive that any hospital would administer any vaccine to a baby without the parents permission!! The only vaccine i have any concerns about is the MMR vaccine, none of my daughters reacted to it, but my son certainly did and he is autistic. I have spoken to other parents who also say they feel ther child is autistic as a result of the MMR vaccine. I don't look at any government sites for information, i tend to look at sites where others have had the same experience.

Lisa, when did your son get the MMR vaccine? was it before they started making the mercury free vaccines or after?

Regarding the Hep B vaccine... I print the forms for our hospital, so I checked the chart they use for babies... it includes a mandatory consent to be signed in order for the baby to be vaccinated with Hep B. However, it is a standard order on the preprinted doctor's orders that the nurses follow with each delivery. You will need to discuss this with your doctor, and make sure that the baby's father is there at the delivery and can reinterate your desire to not have the Hep B vaccine at birth - if the nurses seem at all disagreeable, he may need to accompany the baby when they take it from the room for its heelstick etc. My fear is that the consent signing is considered so routine, they just put it in front of you to sign after the vaccine has been administered - even though this is not legal.

hi Lynn. I have read that the MMR vaccine doesn't contain thiomersal. It stated that other vaccines do contain it. This makes it very confusing, as the MMR is given with their diptheria and teta__s vaccine. I know that when he was given his first vaccine, they still contained mercury. He was born in 1994. It could very well be that he was born with autism, and it just became more noticeable as he got older as he was a very pa__sive baby, but he seemed to 'change' afterwards. I really dont know what to think any more, i just accept the way things are...he is very mildly autistic...i would cla__sify him more aspergers.

The MMR used to contain thermisol (mercury) I was under the impression , from my pediatrician, that they stopped making it with the thermisol fairly recently.

I pulled a chart off I think the CDCs website & it gives every vaccine, the maker(s) of the vacine & whether or not it contains Thimeresol. Apparently most of the vaccines that do contain it are still being manufactured today from what I can tell - it is up to the hospital/doctors office as to which to use, but you can request the Thimeresol-free version. I will have to check my hospital's forms to see hwat they say. I'll bet that there is something on the pre-registration forms about getting the vaccines and it probably says somethings like "any or all necessary procedures" that they can cla__sify the hepb vaccines under.

The MMR vaccine has never contained thimerosal. This is a live virus vaccine. The thimerosal would kill the virus. There are two theories about vaccines and autism. The first is that the MMR vaccine causes autism in some people. The evidence for this is that many autisitic children have measles in their gut. The second is that a c_mulation of thimerosal from all of the shots causes autism in some people who have certain genitic factors. Many beleive that the thimerosal primes the individual and makes them vulnerable to the MMR shto. So the MMR is the "icing on the cake."