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I have no idea whether two surges are possible but GOOOOOOOOOOOO FOR IT GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What have you got to lose - except a little energy perhaps!!!!! LOL!! Enjoy it and make it count!! Can't wait for some more good news from you!!!! TTYL!

hahah, Hopeful. Who knows, maybe my little egg, has been trying to escape for days and just can't break free-lololol. Go egg go!! hahahah. See I've completely lost it! lol. This ttc'ing has finally pushed me over the edge-hahaha. I'm to the point where all i can do is throw up my arms in despair! lol. No really, on a serious note, I hope this is really it, it is time and thought consuming and I have come to think that it is made to be confusing, just so we could never really have it all figured out. One of the miracles of life. XOXO

Hello ladies, sorry I did not write before, but I was reading your posts and your news are so good. Hopeful, I keep eating too, I am not sure if this is good though. But still I am loosing wait, my SIL who has lots of experience, she thinks that this is a sign of a boy : ) : ) : ), when the mom loses weight that means it’s a boy. Sann, I am so happy to hear that you are doing really will, and the baby is fine, keep us posted please. Lovemy3, I think today is the day for you, go for it, as hopeful said, nothing to lose : ) : ). As for the 2 surges, I read in Taking Charge of Your Fertility book, that having 2 positives in one month with those OPK Is not a accurate, its either the test is done wrong, or the woman is over 35, where this is normal to happen, I trust this book, an I recommend it to anybody. In this book she focuses on the EWCM, and I do believe she is right. So LM3, go girl go I am rooting for you tonight. lori ann, welcome to our thread, and congratulations for the twin, you must be flying I am sure, I was trying to get pregnant for 20 years : ): ) and I got my BFP in my 42 birthday, an I am so thankful too. My update, I had a scare 3 days ago, I had some spotting, but it turned to be nothing, I got my HCG level checked again, and the results came back fine, thank god for that. No m/s so far, some cramps, but in general I am feeling good. Still cautious to be happy, I can’t wait for this trimester to end. Girls, your support for me is something I really cherish, and although we never met, but still I feel you are closer to me from my family who lives thousands of mile away. God Bless you all, TTYL

Hi again - I seem to be having a case of verbal diarrhoea today and can't stop posting!! You'll probably be glad to hear that this will be my last post for the day as I'm exhausted now (Famous last words?) lovemy3 - LOL!! at your mania - you definitely sound like you've lost the plot but in a good way!! Enjoy yourself this evening - that's the main thing!! Go egg go!! LOL!! Col - good to hear from you again. Sorry to hear about your scare but I'm glad it was nothing to worry about in the end. Wowee - 20 years ttc!! That is really amazing and makes total sense as to why you're feeling cautiously happy. However, try to enjoy it. I know that's easier said than done (I'm also a ferocious worrier) but focus on the positive whenever you can. Add something to the "I'm feeling good today because" thread whenever you can as that can be a really good boost in confidence! Anyway, Big Hugs, Belly Rubs and Baby Dust to all who need and I'll speak to you soon. (I'm sure I haven't run out of words just yet so it'll probably be tomorrow!!) Looking forward to reading some more updates soon.

Hi Col...Glad things are ok, you must have been worried. So glad all is well. In your post i wasn't sure what you meant by either test done wrong or over 35? Do two surges happen to women over 35? Why and what does that mean. Also, what does it mean if you have a surge for 4 days. On the opk pack it says people with the onset of menopause show high lh, do you know anything about any of this. Sorry for all the questions, you are so knowledgable! thanks

hi all! Wow, it's been busy around here! LORI ANN, welcome and congratulations. Wow, 10 years ttc? I thought 1 year was rough! Well, I'm glad everyone is doing ok (COL, sorry about your scare!) I'm exhausted - it's my day off and I had dr appts and errands and ended up being out a lot longer than I planned today. Going to go take a nap. Nothing new here - just went to the OB's office for bloodwork and history and I'll meet with the OB next week to talk about testing and such.

Good morning all, Val..sounds like you are well. Good luck with your tests. So, dh snuck out early for work around 5:30 am and we didn't get to bd after all the EWCM yesterday so I woke up stressed. lol. We bd yesterday a.m, hope that was enough, I really wanted to do it again this a.m. I let him sleep last night as we had done it in the a.m, I wonder if tonight will be too late. I di want time for the sperm to rebuild. Anyhow, reading my own post I look like a maniac-lolol. Gosh, this has got to be the month!!lolo.l. Hope you all have a wonderful weekend, ttyl XOXO

Gosh, still kicking myself, still TONS of EWCM this a.m and I haven't had this in almost 1 yr, like a long time ago in my early 30's and dh is at work all day. I hope yesterdays a.ms swimmers are still there and surviving. I can't believe my alarm didn't wake me this a.m in time. SO FRUSTRATING.. but on the other hand maybe its because by waiting till tonight the sample wil;l be stronger after 36 hrs versus 24. can you tell I'm stressing-lolol. Come home dh-lololol. Anyhow, so happy my body seems ,like the "old days" of easier fertility...feeling hopeful but nervous to be too hopeful and let down. have a great day. Sorry for posting so much....I am really excited this time around for some reason. XOXO

Good Morn All, Lovemy, your posts are the most exciting things going on for me these days, so post away. I'm glad to hear about all of the ewcm. That's fantastic. I'm sure tonight will be still be good, especially since dh will have enough mature swimmers. Oh, you're gonna have a crazy 2ww! What does your opk show today? Welcome LoriAnn & congrats on the twins!!! You've had a long wait so enjoy every moment of your pregnancy especially w/ no m/s. Col, glad you'r e ok, after the scare. i love to hear about the old wives tale on guesses for boy or girl. I was insane for meat! Crazy insane for rare beef & I was told this was definitely a sign for a boy & they were right! I also had a dream very early on that it was a boy. Any of you preggers have a similar dream yet?

Hi again all! lovemy3 - what a rollercoaster!! I'm so glad you're excited this month - that's got to do you nothing but good!! Also GREAT to hear about your increase in EWCM - also got ot be a good sign. Everything so far is going your way and, like you said, the fact that your dh is at work today is only ripening his "produce"!!! LOL!!! I can just see you running around like a headless chicken today and grabbing him as soon as he comes in the door!!! : ) : )) : ))) : )))) Have fun tonight! KD - good to hear from you again. Where are you in the whole scheme of things this month? What CD etc? In answer to your question - I've had some crazy dreams but nothing that seems gender related. The only things that I can pinpoint is a love of Orange Juice and, for some reason, a belief that the bean is a girl who won't suit our first choice of name and so we'll have to use our second choice. To be honest though, neither me or my hubbie have a preference for gender so that's good and will make the surprise even better! Val - good to hear from you. Glad all is well. Everything's fine with me. Went swimming today and came back, as usual, exhausted and starving!!! Still it was nice to get the adrenalin going! Anyway, must go - TTYL!

Hi everyone : ) LOVEMY3 - You're holding on pretty well too and you've got EWCM ... great sign : ) You go girl : ) Don't stress yourself too much ... it took us almost 7/8 mths to get pregnant this time round. I'm crossing my fingers/toes ... that it's going to happen for you and KD : ) : ) HOPEFUL - NT vs Amnio ... it's a tough decision, even though we had already sign up for amnio but I'm still worried the chances that it might cause a mc : ( : ( : ( RE: EDD is between 18 to 22 Apr ... no exact date. I think ... my ob/gynae uses the measurements from the u/s to determine EDD. I thought we are a week apart not 10 days. My last u/s was done on 25th Sept which dated to be 10wk 1 dy .... base on that this coming Sunday marks the begining of the 13th week : ) RE : The "Pain" ... it's pretty much like what you're having. And begining this week ... I started to have some "pain/cramps" in the middle apart from the left and right. My lower tummy feels a little "tight" too ... can't b___ton my pants and jeans anymore so we going shopping this weekend : ) : ) : ) How's you're back? COL - Sorry about your scare ... great to hear everything is fine now. I was feeling hungry too during the first few weeks but I didn't eat alot though so put on less that a lb (110g to exact) ... my on/gyn said it wasn't weight that I had put on but water retention that I was having. You enjoy every moment of this pregnancy : ) Keep us updated. LORI ANN - Welcome and congrats on having twins : ) VAL - Sounds like you're doing better this week : ) When will your results be out? So what tests did your Ob recommend? KD - Happy 2ww : ) : ) : ) RE : "The Baby Dreams" .... Yes! Yes! Yes! I dreamt that I had twin boys a couple of weeks before I got my BFP : ) : ) : ) I'm wishing you and Lovemy3 .... tonnes and tonnes of baby dreams this cycle : ) : ) : ) Baby dust and belly rubs ... ttyl : )

Hi sann and Hopeful...About the dreams...so crazy with each of mine I had the same reoccurring dream...that I was changing a newborn diaper then I either saw male parts or female parts. Weird eh, little tiny newborn and as I changed their bum, I could see, nothing else, just that while I was pregnant. It was always the same each dream. With my first 2 girls..girls and then my son.. my dream said girl and he was actually a boy. So hard to know if they have any significance but I definately had dreams. Keep dreaming happy dreams!!

Good morning ladies, lovemay3, EWCM is a very good sign, and I do not think it’s too late, you should be fine for tonight, I am sure your husband is happy about your possession of having a baby, he is having fun : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) !!!!! KD, what CD are you in now? Hope this is your month too. Hopeful, I envy you for your dedication for swimming, I wish I can commit to at least walking, I did not do that since I got pregnant, I feel so guilty, especially with the extra food I am eating, you are lucky you work with your husband, so you have fixable times , glad that you are doing good. VAL, its good to be exhausted at this stage, that means the body is working hard on accommodating the new comer: )))))))) I think we are one week apart. I am 6wks4days. Sann, it’s wonderful to hear from you, and knowing that you are doing really will, I can’t believe you are already 12 weeks. It’s a bout time I think for your jeans to not fit you anymore: ))))) I wish we have the choice f posting pictures for our progress, that would be cool , don’t you think so ? . My update, nothing special I feel tired and yesterday for some reason my feet puffed-up, but not much, I don’t know if this normal or its related to the pregnancy, because we do not notice such things before, right? Anyway, I took the day off today, I wanted to relax and take it easy. I am so lucky with my job, I work with a very supportive group. DH is going to be traveling more often in the coming months, but that god I have my family around, although I am mad that I cant travel with him too, I did this most of the times before. Well, I can live with that for now : )))))))))))))). Wow, I talk to much I think. TTYL god bless you all

Oh one more thing, about the dreams, 3 months before I got pregnant, I had a dream a bout one of my aunts, she is my moms, sister, she died 2 years ago, in my dream she came to visit me and gave me a gift, she said this is for you, the gift was a big box that has lots of blue baby clothes, she said take this you will need it soon. So we will see. I am planning in knowing the s_x of the baby so far, I might change my mind though. TTYL

Sounds like you are well Col. I don't much about swelling at this point in a pregnancy, I know later that has to be watched, but it is way too early for it to be a concern from preeclampsia at this point. Try to keep them up and relax. Do you have any preference of the gender of your baby? Hope you have a wonderul weekend.

Hello all! Goodness what a lot of posts in the last few hours. It really feels a bit like a conversation!! Sann - from your EDD it sounds like we are a week apart. My EDD is April 29th but by my calculations that means I'll be 12 Weeks on Sunday and starting week 13 on Monday (Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!) which would put us on the same week so that can't be right. So now I'm confused because on the 25th September I was 9 weeks 2 days (just short of a week behind you) but now I seem to have caught up!! I think you're about to start your 14th week but I may be wrong. I hope I'm right though as that means you're only 7 days away from the end of the first trimester!!! (Double Yippppppppeeeeeeeeee!!!) Can someone mathematical verify this for us? My brain's gone soggy!! Thank you!!!!!!! LOL!!! I know exactly what you mean about your tummy feeling tight - I have that too and also the "pain" has also decided to appear in the middle like yours so we are definitely on the same wavelength by the sound of it. Good to hear someone with the same symptoms - it puts me at ease and I hope you too!! Great to hear from you! Col - gosh you make it sound like I'm being so good with the swimming and all that. I'm really not that dedicated - just 2x a week if I can and some walking on the other days. To be honest, the fact that I'm already overweight worries me slightly so I don't want to exceed the recommended "gain" so that it's not any danger to the bean or too hard to shift afterwards. I'm not dieting or anything silly like that and I'm eating what I like when I'm hungry (which is mostly very plain food and usually only at mealtimes - give or take a banana or piece of toast when I get desperate!!) but I just want to try and stay fit. I also think that will help when it comes to the whole labour part so that's another reason to keep it up. Having said all that I've been very lucky to have avoided really bad morning sickness so that gives me more motivation to do exercise. Certainly on the days when I did feel sick I did nothing but sleep, rest and eat what I could so I was by no means an angel and can totally relate to anyone who can't find the energy to do anything during moments of sickness. Don't worry if you're not feeling up to doing anything strenuous - I'm sure things will improve in the second trimester (I'm not there yet but am definitely feeling more energetic - can't you tell by these lengthy and frequent posts LOL!!! and you think you talk too much !!! : ) : )) : ))) : )))). So take it easy while you can and whenever your body tells you to - glad you're able to take the day off. That's always a good feeling isn't it? Everyone take care - TTYL! (So sorry about the long post - can't seem to shift this verbal diarrhoea!!)