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It can truly be to early to see the fetus..Mine was 2mm or so, so it was tiny. She said she saw the yolk sac too and a flash where the heart was beating. It can still be way to early to tell. Your next ultrasound will definitely show results that are more conclusive. There is a chance that you may have ovulated later than suspected if your last period was Feb 20th..Then that means if you have a 28 day cycle for example you would have ovulated on March 7th or so. If your cycles are longer then those dates the date would again be bumped up. So that said..that could make you less pregnant then they might a__sume..and therefore you would definitely not be able to see a heart beat and your levels would not even be in question. Try not to read into it too much..I tried to to tell myself that there was nothing I could do personally to change things and stressing was bad for everyone..it truly is up to the little one inside.. if the conditions are right he/she will prevail!..I know this doesn't make things any better but I still think things are going to be just fine with you ...Really I do. Please keep me posted...relax..and do something special for yourself..you deserve it my friend! XO Kristin

hmm, i was gonna say maybe your having twins or something...IM HAVING TRIPLETS! but i never knew what my HCG levels were, and i think they were probably normal too which is weird because they never told me they were high and they also didnt tell me anything about that it could be twins or more!!! but i got my first ultra sound, and there were 3! so good luck to you!!! are you on any fertility medicine??? because that would deffinately increase your chances of having more!

Hi kristin, I am crying soo much. My doctor called me at work and asked me to go right away to un ultrasound because my hcg level was 3999 on Monday and today Wednesday my hcg is only 5000. Iw ent and they told me that i am 6 weeks and 5 days pregnant abd usually by this time they should see a heartbeat or fetus . They told me they saw a sac of 5 and a half weeks pegnancy and something measure 4mm but no heartbeat and she is not sure is there is blood in the sac because it is too small. She said I am not sure if it is a good pregnancy. I went back to the doctor office he told me that he did not loose hope yet . he also said that he will send me to another ultrasound on Thursday and if it is still the same he will do D&c then. I am sooo sad I ahve been trying for more then two years. My last miscariage was 7 years ago with 13 weeks pregnancy. My first mariage was not very good and this is my second mariage to a wonderful man who deserve a child. I am feeling sooo sad and all what I do os keep praying.

Hi Lara..If your doctor has not lost hope..neither have i..your levels still went up. i think you have to remain as optimistic as possible. drink as much water as you can handle so you can aid in the blood flow to the forming placenta. rest..and i mean rest..try to take your mind off this...because it is out of your hands, I will pray for you. I have not been on this site as i am in florida right now..and i will be returning on monday to toronto. i too have big concerns with my regnancy..i keep thinking mine is no longer viable. i have little pregnancy symptoms only a full feeling and very sporatic nausea. my next ultrasound will not be for a week and half. i am starting 7 weeks 2 days.. i will be here if you need my help..i don't know everything by any means, but i have been there so my experience is somewhat valid...hoping yours and mine remain viable. xo kristin,,, take care lara

i wouldnt get too concerned with havin no symptoms because, IM HAVING TRIPLETS, ALL THEIR HEARTS ARE BEATING, im 10 weeks and the only symptom i have is extremeeeelllyyy tired! ill keep you all in my prayers, i hope everything goes well! good luck and god bless...

Thanks. kristin. I am praying for you and for me. I will try to rest this weekend and do something to keep my mind busy. I am in ottawa by the way. Nothing I can do until I go the next ultrasound. I will drink lots of water as you said since there is still hope. Have a nice weekend Kristin.

How are you feeling Lara? When is your next ultrasound?..Have you had anymore HCG tests? I am thinking of you..hope you are doing well :) XO Kristin

Hi kristin. Thanks for asking. I just get off the phone with my doctor. The secretary is very rude! Anyway my HCG level went up from 5000 from Wednesday afternoon to the 6034 on Friday but it was not 48 hours even because I did my test at noon on Friday. Tomorrow I will do another HCG level and see how much HCG would rise from last friday up to tomorrow. It still rising but very slow but at least it did not decrease or stop and I don't have any spotting or bleeding.Thursday I will do my ultrasound. I am very very nervous but still have hope! Pls keep me in your prayers.

Well...Lara..that is good news..things are still kicking in there!! Best of luck for Thursday..can't wait to hear everything is just fine..you are in my prayers. XO Kristin

Hi Kristin. I have been crying since yesterday. I can't tell you the pain I feel and the sadness in my heart. I went yesterday for ultrasound and the doctor said it is not a good pregnancy all what they saw is a sac ..an empty sac no fetus or hearbeat. Eventhough my hcg level doubled to 12000. He gave me yesterday pills to put before bed veginally so i can help miscarry without D&C. I put them last night and at 3am I woke up as if I was inlabor the pain I had and the cramps were unreal I was screaming from pain for 4 hours then I went to the bathroom and I started to bleed and I pa__sed everything out. Today I ahve a very sore stomack and I feel like I just deliver a baby. I am trying to be strong but it is too hard after trying for many years and finally got pregnant but ended uo miscarrying. I am not sure if I ever will be pregnant again and if I do if same things will happen to me. When I asked the doctor why this is happened to me he said one of the two reasons maybe the egg quality with my age is not good or there was something wrong with chromosomes and the body rejected it. I keep thinking I am 42 and if the egg quality is not good how amI gonna get pregnant again wihtout going through the same thing. Last night I felt sooo sad when I bleed because I felt the happy thing that was inside me was gone..it was soo ahrd and so painful ..I am sooo sad kristin and I rpay that no woman go through what I went through it is a very sad horrible experince...I left the doctor office I felt very starnge feeling like guilt like it was my fault but really it wasn't it was god meant it to be... I have a big faith in god and I know he did that for a reason. It is just I am sooo sad and hurt. I wish everyone the best and if I ever get pregnant again I will let you know..maybe I should start loosing some weight since I ahve gained a lot this year!

Lara..My words can not express my sad feelings for you..I truly feel your pain..really I do. I can only tell you a couple of things from my own experience..firstly, you may be aware that I too had a missed miscarriage less than 4 months ago at almost 14 weeks. The heart just stopped beating. It was not without warning signs at 8 weeks I spotted one day..but they said the heart was strong and everything seemed ok. But at my 11 week prenatal screening test i tested screen positive. The NT reading was 4.0 and anything over 2.5 is consider high. So this is where the red alert was given. I met with a genetic counsellor where we discussed my options but she thought I would inevitably miscarry as there was also fluid around the fetus' abdomen. I was scheduled for a CVS and they were going to check at that time for any chromosonal problems...well on the day of the CVS they started with an ultrasound and at that time they asked me to cough and there was no movement from the fetus. I nearly pa__sed out. Trying to hold my composure was just to devestating and I broke out into explosive tears. My father came to pick me up and I could barely speak. I was scheduled for a D&C two days later. They had told me the fetus had stopped growing at around 11 weeks 6 days. So the heart had stopped beating 2 weeks prior. After the D&C I bled for 21 days straight. This concerned me and I went for an additional ultrasound where they discovered I had retained fetal tissue. The doctor thought that I would eventually pa__s it on my own. My next period started less than a week later and again bled for 16 days. Again I went for another ultrasound and there was still fetal debris remaining. I was leaving for a scheduled holiday in a few days so obviously I wanted to have things resolved. My gyno told me that he was confident that my body would get rid of the remaining tissue on it's own, but if it hadn't and upon my return I would go in for another rec'd ultrasound. At that point they would decide to either have another D&C or they would go in with a camera and try to find the tissues. The gyno also told me a story of his wife who had had 2 miscarriages before. I was like ya ya..but then he told me she did not have her first solid pregnancy until 42.. now they have had another child since then when she was turning 44. They now have two children. Also, he told me that eventhough I have some tissues remaining..I could still very well get pregnant..and I did!..on my trip I got pregnant. Instead of coming home to have an ultrasound I called to tell them I was pregnant again. Lara, you did get pregnant so recently, so you don't have a problem getting pregnant. If you do try again..I do urge you to do so when you feel ready. The only thing you may change is a methodical approach. That it what I did..even though I was still bleeding to a great degree I did the follwing. I continued taking my prenatal vitamins, I charted my basal temps and bought an ovulation predictor kit, I joined a gym and tried getting into better shape, I ate well, cut out caffiene, and limited alcohol....If you do want to try again I have heard when you miscarry the lining of your uterus is a great environment for a new embryo to imbed itself. Maybe this time your egg was off.. but there are still thousands of eggs left that are healthy and raring to go..I wish you strength...and I know your faith will help you through this trying time. Be good to yourself..you deserve it. I hope you can see a glimmer of hope at the end of the tunnel. I know you can have a child again if you choose to..I will be here in this forum...Take good care of yourself...Again, I am soooo sorry. I really am...Let me know how you are feeling and doing..I really do understand your pain. :( Kristin XO

Hi kristin. I decided to go to the park with my husband. We had a little picnic I let go many tears and after I felt better. I just came back my bleeding becoming less and less and my cramps are totally gone I am just a little sore from my uetrus and my stomack like as if I delivered a baby. Thank you soooo much for sharing your story and for your great support .You are such a great kind woman and all my prayers to you to protect you and your baby. I will strat my diet next week and I have plan to walk everyday for an hour because I hate running. I love coffe but I will try to cut down for one cup a day. My food is almost always healthy because it is a middleastern food and I always cook at home to avoid junk food outside. You really lift my spirit up and I felt much better after I read your message. I really thank you for your good word and your kind heart. Please if anytime you visit Ottawa make sure to stop by i promiss you a middleastern dish! You are right about taking care of myself. Sometimes it is stressful at work. I work with special needs students and my reward when I see them learning and showing progress and my stress is from the politics at school that I try my best to stay away from it. I will always keep in touch and please do so too when you have a chance. My email at yahoo is lara_51764@yahoo.com if you like to email me sometimes or if you want we can still chat in this board. My best wishes to you my god bless you and your baby.

WOW> i dont know what to say but, Kristin i read what you went through, and laura, and im scared to death because im 18 and i have triplets on the way, two are identicle, and i saw a perinatologist who told me all the risks and since then i cant help but worry for my babies and myself and im so affraid! just being pregnant with these triplets naturally at my age was big deal, its like a miracle to me and no matter how young i am im so happy and i thank god for this everyday because it is rare. my boyfriend and i are so excited for them to come, and i really hope everythng goes good and i dont miscarry and they are healthy because we would be so devastated. and just reading your stories i started to cry, i also feel for oth of you, and i cant say i kno how you feel, but i can try to imagine and its not good at all, so you guys are both in my prayers, and my advice is to just pray and pray as much as you can and have faith, its the only thing getting me by right now, i kno what its like to worry as a mother now for your children, its gonna be hard but, hopefully i get to see the day where all three are born healthy and strong! god bless all of you, and your all in my prayers!

Hi Lara..I think that is a great idea that you went to the park with your hubby. Thankyou so much for your grat_tude towards me, it really touched my heart. I do not want to lose touch with you..I am glad you gave me your email just in case. Please continue to check in here and there is another section on this site for women who have suffered a loss...if you need more help in that way. Mind you alot of us here have gone through a loss of pregnancy before. When I had my loss last Dec..I just took charge and continued educationg myself as much as I could. I stayed on websites where I had good repor with people who knew my story..it really helped alot. I read on your other thread that you are still experiencing some bleeding..this is normal and may continue for a week or longer until your uterus is cleaned out completely. I urge you to get back on the band wagon as soon as you feel ready..and remember those tips I had for you...Take Care You are a LOVELY person..You will make a great mother! I never asked if you had other children...maybe you do..but regardless Best of luck with your future endeavors and I will be here for you whenever you need any advice or help!! XO Kristin

Hi kristin. You are too such a kind, wonderful woman and I really appreciat your support and your advise. Tomorrow I am going back to work it is better then staying home and driving my mind crazy about what happened. Many friends are pregnant in our school and they do care, they will be sad and asking questions of what happened so I ahve to be ready not to cry there. I ahve one son he is 12 years old and he makes my day everyday. I was hopping to give him a brother or a sister he really wants one..maybe one day god will answer my prayers and get me pregnant again with a healthy baby. I need to ask you Kristin about prenatal vitamin. Do i keep continue taking them or should I wait until my bleeding stop? I was also taking metformin because I am insulin resistant as my doctor said so I will ask him about metformin. Have a great week and thanks again.

Hi Lara, If you do plan on getting pregnant again in the future..continue taking the prenatal vitamins anyway. It's like giving your future pregnancy a head start agains neural defects and spina bifida. I take materna..but any prenatal vitamin containing folic acid is great. I am not too sure about metaformin so that you may want to ask your doctor about it. If you think about it or have never done it before...start your basal temperature taking. Ideally you could have started it the first day you began to bleed in this cycle..get a calender and write down your temps plus your cervical mucus texture.. there are basal charts you can print off the internet. Start charting your temperature every morning before you get out of bed and also around the same time. As your temperature rises around the time of ovulation this will indicate your ovulation time. Do so for the next month or two until you develop a pattern of increases at ovulation time. When you figure out when you ovulate say for the following month buy an ovulation predictor kit available at shoppers drug mart. I bought the life brand one. Start doing the prediction kit a couple days before you think you will ovulate and when you see the surge it means you are going to ovulate within 24-36 hours. Again, I did this and I was pregnant two cycles after my D&C. Good luck and if all else fails it really helps you get in touch with your body and when it is doing what. This also allowed me to know I was pregnant the day I missed my period. I hope I am not pushing the idea to try again too much..I just want you to know your options if you truly do want to try again.. Best of luck at your week back and work..allow yourself to cry..this is normal, and tell people your situation you feel comfortable with it is part of the healing and grieving process. Do not be ashamed of what happened you will soon find out how many others are sympathetic to you and have also been in a similar situation. Have a great week Lara! Again, I am so sorry for your loss. XO Kristin