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Lovemy3, I'm cracking up over your hubby's comment on "Having enough strong sperm"...How funny. Val how are the prog supplements? any weird side effects? I'm somewhere around 10 dpo today. Feeling extremely unpregnant. Boob pain is back, but more evenly tender, usually just pain by my armpit. white creamy cm, low soft open cp... just ready for AF on Wed. Boo Hoo. Hope all is well w/ everyone. Hope Sann & Hopeful are well.

Nothing really new to report here at 4dpo. Some bloating that I think is from the progesterone. And I've been having crazy salt cravings. Not sure where that's coming from! KD, sorry you're expecting AF. You never really know though... I'm on another thread and the most recent bfps have been from women who really thought that their cycle was a bust! LOVEMY3, your dh's comment made me laugh also! Oh, and I'm 36 by the way - right in the middle of you both!

Good morning ladies. Nothing new here. cd14 and still "high" fertility. Waiting for the "peak" symbol to appear. No bd'ing this am. Going to cd15 if still high then as soon as we get "peak" symbol and for 2 days after the "peak" thats the plan- lol. Gosh, this is getting scary , how thought out this turns!! How are you all today. I wonder what has happened to Hopeful... she should have been back long ago I think? Anyhow, our fall fair is this weekend and lots of fun! ttyl XOXO

Don't worry! I'm still here but just too busy to write! Thank you all for your concern. My Dad leaves on Tuesday so I should be back in full flow soon after that. Appointment tomorrow so think of me lots and wish me luck. A presto mie amicie!

Good Morning, Well, after my Fibrocystic b___st pain vanished 3 days ago, it came back with a veangence...my b___sts are so swollen & sore. Had to actually wear one of my maternity bras a couple of days ago. i started to get excited yesterday thinking my nips were getting tender, but the tingling was fleeting & that very well could be my mind playing tricks. As for the super heavy sore b___sts, I don't know...a symptom, or more fibrocystic changes!!!! hmmm Went to one of the Japanese steakhouses where they cook the food in front of you w/extended family, anyhow the chef insisted on squirting Sake into everyone's mouth. When he got to me, I refused firmly. So I'm sure now my Aunt, my sister & cousin are curious, I'm sure the conversation will be brought up. I was towards the end & just praying someone else would decline, but no...just me! I was telling my DH on the way home that it really would be easier on everyone if as soon as a woman got pg, her crotch would turn blue....lol You know none of the vague, could be, maybe 10 other things. We'd go oh, my crotch is blue I'm pregnant! Simple & easy...

Hi there, Hopeful.. Glad to see you. How are feeling? Everything A-ok? KD...thats funny, it would be good wouldn't it? What day is af due? Not much to report here. monitor still says "high" CD15. I know I usually o on cd18,19, or 20, so it doesn't surprise me. We are sticking to the every other day bd'ing this cycle. So bd'd this a.m and now will wait to cd17, which will be closer mto ovulation, then if we get the "peak" symbol on cd18 we will bd again because of the symbol. From other women I have been told its impoortnat to bd the 2 days following the peak symbol as well. My most concerning non-symptom is the fact I don't have any cm, which I know is so important. I was told once hydration plays a role in that. What do you all think? Anyhow, thats it for me. Hope you are all well. Good luck Hopeful at your appointment! XOXO

HI all... LM#, I have heard that dehydration can play a factor, so drink up! KD, are you 12dpo today? Are you going to test, or just wait to see if af shows up? The b___b thing sounds painful. :-( HOPEFUL, so glad you are doing well. Hope the dr visit is a good one. COL and SANN, how are you both? I think SANN is on bedrest... is that right? I'm 6dpo today. Not enjoying taking the progesterone but I figure it's a good thing to do so I'll stick with it. Really have no intuition either way about whether this cycle will be successful, but I'm just trying to think good thoughts. Hope everyone is having a good weekend!

Well, I'm out again. Got really bad cramps this am & started spotting. I'm really sad about it this month. More so than the last 2. I'm sure it's the AF hormones kicking in, but I'm really bummed. Probably also because on it being Sept 11th. so now I feel quilty for feeling so upset when I should be feeling greatful for what I do have! But what can I say. I'm still really blue. I'm hoping the rest of you are doing well. I promise next time I'll be less of a downer. I think I need to just have my little pity party today. Bye

KD...Hugs, hugs, Hugs. Thats crummy. I don't even know what to say to make ya feel better. We try so hard and then it shows up again. I was thinking that when i got up to test my pee again today. CD 16 and still showing "high" but no surge. And i thought, this is getting on my nerves. So I know how upsetting it is when it arrives again. Yuck. I think as we get older it is just going to take longer because of our age. I guess we'll just have to keep trying and wait it out. The positive thing is that you have had a baby before, so thats one good thing, it can be done. hang in there today, hun. I'll be thinking of ya! ttyl XOXO

KD, I'm sorry about af... I know how frustrating it is when it arrives... Don't get down on yourself for feeling sad... I'm sending a big hug your way. xo

Good morning. How are you feeling this a.m KD? Hopefully a ittle better. Does the breat pain lessen or worsen with af? Val...how are you doing? When should you be testing? how are the side effects of progesterone? not much going on around here. CD17 and monitor shows still "high" waiting patiently for "peak". If i don't get it in the next 3 days, i will be worried because thats unusual. We bd this a.m, being on the every other day schedule, but of course if my peak shows tommorrow a.m we will again. (TMI- but I really notice a big difference in the amount of sperm by only bd'ing every other day and I'm hoping thats a good thing) Some of the ladies say to make sure to bd for 2-3 days after peak as well. KD...have you ever used OPK's? maybe you could try them next month. Thats really it here. Hoping this is a good month for everybody, ttyl XOXO

Hi Girls, Thx for all of the hugs. I'm feeling a bit better today. I was super busy yest. which was really the best thing for me. The previous months we only bd'd a few times around the middle of the month. This time I made sure we did it every other day starting from the end of AF & continue into the 2ww just in case, so I thought I had all of our bases covered. I never felt pg, so I wasn't surprised, but the whole bad b___st pain did throw me for a loop. I started to get hopeful. It goes away when AF comes thk gd! I read online that not wearing a bra helps, so I found my loosest, no underwire, puppies-hang-low bra & it certainly helped the last 2 days. As for the OPK's I was definitely planning on it, but I'm kinda unsure. I think I'm gonna check them out today. I think I'm just afraid. Lovemy3, How many days have you been showing "High"? I hope that Peak shows up. I'm gonna have to do some research on all of that. I find that TMI sperm amt. very interesting!!!! Val, sorry, I can't remember, do you have any kids?

Hi KD, My monitor has been showing "high" since day 12 to cd17, it says it usually gives you 5 "high" days before peak. They say you have most increased chance of conc. 6 days prior to o'ing. Who knows. I have also used regular OPK's that you buy in nthe store. they only have 5 tests in them and me not o'ving till day 19 or 20, I had to buy 2 packs. they are about $40 per pack in canada. The monitor is over $250 canadian but I got mine from a friend, so I figured what the heck. How come you are afraid to try them? Other than the cost , it is peeing on the stick, nothing invasive or nothing to ingest or anything like that. I am leary of FertiAID or meds and won't be trying them i don't think, but never say never. The more I read, the more I wonder if my tubes are blocked from scar tissue from my 3 sections. I can feel each month becoming more determined! Glad to hear you are feeling more up today! Just think CD2 of a new cycle and new hope! hang in there! XOXO

good morning! Only one more day till dh gets back home... yay! This has been a long trip and his next one will be even longer. :-( KD, glad you are doing better. I think the opks are helpful, especially if you can't tell by your body's signs (like cm) when you will ovulate. The only thing I don't like is that when I get a negative, it's sort of like getting a bfn, and I'm always disappointed and slightly less excited about bding. Oh, and I don't have any children yet. DH and I have been together for nearly 17 years (our 6th wedding anniv is this Saturday) but we wanted to wait until we had a house and some financial stability. Well, I was ready to start trying a year earlier than we did, but he wanted to wait. On my bad days, that fact really gets me down. LM3 - I hope you get that peak soon! Seems like we have to do so much waiting. If nothing else, this whole process has definitely taught me some patience. The progesterone seems to make me hungry and somewhat bloated. Pretty fun. The dr's info sheet says it can give you pg symptoms, so at least I won't be reading anything into any symptoms this month - I'll just put it down to the progesterone. I'm 8dpo today and starting to feel like this cycle will be a bust. I know it's early though. I'm not testing until next Tuesday. Hope you have a good day!

hi Val... Our anniversary is on monday, thats funny. 14 years. Stay positive....this could be the month! Hopefully your af won't arrive!! With your positive att_tude its bound to happen soon for you!! Anyhow, hope you have a great day as well, ttyl

Hi Again Ladies, My concern about the OPK is that the whole pg thing being on my mind too much. I really just want to relax. It's like consuming me. I'm worried that'll be yet another thing for me to obsess over.But I am curious about when I actually O. I don't know. I guess I'm gonna think a bit more on it. It certainly sounds helpful. Happy Anniversary to both of you. Val, I truly understand the waiting for the house & financial stability. We were all ready to "settle down";House baby, etc, when my DH got injured (some sort of repetative arm injury). That was over 6 years ago. So we waited initially & then had to wait again& still now we seem to be waiting. Ideally it's still not the greatest time. No House, no stable job(he freelances when he's not in too much pain & I work on the weekends& do some freelancing when I can) & we pay for our health insurance out the wazoo! But time is running out. So we decided to go for it anyway. I have no idea what the right thing to do is, but this seems right for now. Hopefully this will happen for us all soon. have a good day