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Lovemy3, I hear you, and I know how it feels, I am so sorry for AF arriving, but I am sure that it’s not the end of it, I am sure will have more, its just a matter of time, trust me I never felt I can be pregnant, and I thought that I never men tot be a mom. I use to be sad, angry, hopeless and helpless. You said before, it’s all in god’s hands. One tip I have to share with you, since I used all kind of monitoring and OPK, nothing helped me, and it turned to be that we are bd the wrong days and its too late, anyway, observe your CM, and make sure to bd those days, CM provides the most fertile environment for sperms to survive as long as 5 days, this is from an experience. Please cheer up, and tomorrow is another day. TTYL

Dearest lovemy3 - I'm so sorry. Try not to despair though. As you've said yourself no matter what - nothing can steal your joy of having 3 beautiful children. I'm with COL and think the best way you can try next month is to put all your OPKs etc in the back of the cupboard and try to follow what your own body is saying to you. You have a natural instinct which will tell you when is the right time and the stress of reading monitors lines has probably clouded that somewhat. Give yourself some time to feel the sadness you feel but then enjoy a large gla__s of wine (while you can! LOL!) and get back to living life. Don't give up yet - it's still early days! Big Hugs to you {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

hi there, Thanks for the hugs and encouragement. I'm so sorry I sound so negative. I know I have kids and am already blessed even if this is the end of the fertility road, but it is still so discouraging when you plan, try obsess-lol so hard! I'm also thinking it could be weight related. When I concieved before I was always a lot thinner, like 70 lbs thinner, but I am still showing a surge. Maybe the monitor was right, I don't have a peak. But then how come the OPK's show one? Do you think its possible to surge and not have an egg. Or maybe I have so much scar tissue from my sections. Who knows? I haven't been to the drs about any of this. Col.... just to remember correctly..you have an upcoming appt with fertilty spec. but you never actually went right...this was all natural now? I have decided to start back at Weight Watchers and keep trying, get my weight down and if it hasn't happened by feb, go in thinner and ask them to run some bloodwork. We are going to Disney for Christmas this year, maybe a holiday like Cols will do it! You are very right Col about Gods timing, I agree but it is hard to accept that when you want to run yuor own show-lol. Thank you all for the encouragement, I am so glad you all are all going to experience motherhood...its the best job in the world. Now its just up to KD...go, go! Thanks again, XOXO

lovemy3 - re. the weight thing. I don't know if this helps, but after my miscarriage in April I vowed to lose some weight while I was waiting to ttc again (3months). My theory was that it would help my chances as much as possible and we succeeded first try. I also think that getting fitter helped my overall well-being and self-confidence and those psychological improvements made me physically healthier overall. I certainly think it's worth a try and can do nothing but help you feel better in both body and mind. Good luck with it - and if you don't have a sport you particularly like, try swimming - I LOVE IT!!!!!!!

Lovemy3, I'm so sorry to hear. I'm right there w/ you never thinking I wouldn't/couldn't have any more. I have all of my pg clothes,pumps & blankets etc. clearly labled & ready for baby#2. I too try to keep in mind how lucky I am to have what I have, but I'm still wanting. All I can say is that even though we are in our mid 30s, we still have plenty more time to conceive. Its not over yet. I agree w/ your decision to try & get healthy by losing some weight. Feeling better about yourself can do wonders for body & mind. I'm trying to get myself back to the gym. It's hard, but maybe w/ this extra added incentive I can push myself a little more. I checked into the not releasing egg theory & it sounds very rare & that your periods would not be normal. I have also read that scar tissue has nothing to do w/ having trouble conceiving. Of course you can't believe everything you read on the web, but i saw this info on several different sites. Have a pity party. Drink some wine, have a big cup o'joe & one last cry, then pick yourself up & start a new day w/ a new outlook. I'll join you. Let's post some weight loss here too. We can cheer each other on. Hug!

Thanks ladies...you are all so wonderful...such encouragement and support. I hope I can answer some of your pregnancy questions for you as you go through your pregnancies. Pls don't hesitate to ask and talk about pregnancy with me...I'm not at all sensitive to that and would love to be of any help with questions and comments since I've been htrough it before. I have had lots of tests and craziness having high risk pregnacies. I have picked myself up, had a good cry, pulled out my old sheets of paper from my ob for gestional diabetes and eating habits, found my running shoes and am ready to start a new day. I have also decided this may or may not be it, no more a__suming, but living each day as it is, with hope but as it is in the present. Thanks to all, Hugs...XOXO

P.S KD....I can relate to the keeping all the baby stuff. I have containers full of all my baby clothes from all kids, 11 years worth-lol. baby swing, exersaucer, jolly jum per etc. have it all in bas____nt. Sometimes i think it make s it harder to look out. My youngest is just out of diapers and crib, and I think Hmmm, wonder if I'll ever use this again. ttyl XOXO

Hello ladies : ) How everyone doing? Sorry : ( I didn't write for the past few weeks. I was on bedrest at my in laws place and mom in law was really concerned that she didn't allow to do anything except eat, sleep and go to the bathroom. I just want to drop in and say hello to everyone : ) : ) : ) Let me catch up on what I had missed out these past weeks and I'll write again. Just before I go CONGRATULATIONS to COL & VAL : ) : ) : ) I so excited for the both of you : ) : ) : ) KD and Lovemy3 .... hang in there, it'll be your turns soon. Ladies ... pls update me on your progress : ) My updates .... baby is doing fine and I now 10 weeks 3 days : ) But still on progestrone though. Talk to you soon and take care everyone : )

Hi Sann!! So awesome to hear from you. So happy you are doing well. Keep in touch, we have missed you XOXO

Hello ladies, Sann, I am so happy we heard from you, glad you and the baby are doing well, I was so worried and I am sure all the girls who know you here. Welcome back. Lovemy3, how are hope you are doing well gearing up for the next round : ), I am sure it’s a matter of time in your case, just do not stress about it. KD, good luck with the OPKs. Hopeful, how are you, how is the baby doing? I really like your posts, they are full of energy : ) : ) I liked what you wrote about my nick name, but when I picked it, it was for something, and I cant recall to be honest what was it. : (. My updates, today I am so exhausted, I feel like to sleep all the times, plus I get cramps here and there. TTYL

Hi All. Sann, Really glad to hear that you are doing well. I hope everyone is having a good day. My OPK today at least showed a faint line, so I feel comforted knowing that O is coming. Yesterday I started to notice some ewcm, so I'm glad the OPK & cm is matching up a bit.

KD, last cycle, the one I got pregnant, we bd once, it was before the opk and the monitor positive, but something I am sure about is that I had EWCM that day. It was the day before my first positive. Just wanted to share.

Col, Thx for the info. We bd'd last night just in case. I was happy to notice some ewcm at all. I don't recall seeing much the last few months. I guess I should thank Val. She suggested drinking more water & trying pineapple juice. I don't know if it's a coincedence, but I'm going to keep it up!

Hi everyone, Glad to hear everyone upbeat and happy. Col...sounds like you are doing well, I had cramps as well with each of my kids and was tired. I am so happy for you. Hopeful...glad to know all is well with you too. When is your due date? KD...thats good you found the OPK's. You will know you are actually O when the lines are the same or darker. Do you think the water and juice makes a difference?. I think I am lacking in EWCM. Have you girls ever heard of the cough medicine thing? I'm wondering if that is OK, healthy? I'm happy because for the first time in a long time my af is more like it used to be, heavy and so far 2 days. In the last 6 months it was barely existent for 1-2 days. Maybe its a good sign. Anuhow, I'm not feeling nearly as anxious and I can see both sides of the coin now, whether it happens or not and am ok with it I think. We will continue to try probably for another 6 months or so as I lose weight, but we aren't going to do meds or testing we've decided. Thats really it here, I am excited to hear about growing bellies and your journey through pregnancy, Its awesome and its going to be so great for you to experience it. ttyl

SANN! Glad you are ok! I figured you weren't writing because you didn't have computer access, but I was still worried. Wow, 10 weeks, that's great! How have you been feeling? And why did the dr put you on bedrest? KD, glad you're getting the ewcm! I don't think I suggested pineapple juice - only water. I have heard some good things about grapefruit juice though. Hope your having fun bding... get some in for me... it's been over 3 weeks! ;-) LM3 - glad you're feeling better. I had found that focussing on some positive activity (like exercise or healthy weight loss) helped some while I was ttc. It was nice to have control over something, and I felt better after losing weight (I lost about 11 lbs on Weight Watchers earlier this year). I'm feeling like I really need to work out again (I haven't been for 3 weeks) but I'm going to see what the dr says on Friday when I go in for the u/s. HOPEFUL, I like your suggestion about swimming - I might have to start that up! I'm also thinking about prenatal yoga. Anyway, I'm glad everyone seems to be doing ok... ttyl.

Hello all - especially Sann who deserves a great big welcome back! Hooray!! lovemy3 - thanks for the offer of advice to us first time mums. I, for one, WILL be taking advantage of your wisdom and I'm sure others will too, so I think you could be busy for a while!! LOL!! In answer to your question my due date is April 28/29th so it'll probably be early May!! A Taurus - we're going to have our hands full I think! Anyway, I hope you're back on track with your cycle now. Like I said on a previous post - don't worry about a lack of EWCM - I didn't have much either so it is still possible. Also, I don't think your periods would be so regular if there was a problem with your eggs but I could be wrong there. In any case, make sure before your next attempt that you enjoy a few gla__ses of wine for all us abstainers!! LOL!! KD - much much luck with this cycle. Sounds like you're onto a good one this time. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you. Col - thank you for your kind words. How are you doing today? Val - good luck with the swimming. I really like yoga too and have found a good DVD which is specially designed for pregnant couples. It has a session just for mums-to-be and then two sessions with your chosen birth partner to try and help through labour. If anyone's interested I'll give you the details. Anyway, my update - well, the insomnia seems to have improved slightly (although it could simply be that I've got used to it!) and I'm taking every opportunity to sleep and rest in the day (usually straight after eating!!) Other than that - same old, same old - b___bs, stomach and emotions are all making their presence felt! 9 weeks 5days today and only a week to go before the next ultrasound so will feel more confident then. Speak to you all soon.