Chilld Support

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preciousjewel - August 25

is it possible to get child support without having the kid even know who his father is. Does he automatically get visitation? And does he have to be on the birth certificate?

 

mischelly30 - August 25

If you file for child support, the father will then have the right to file for visitation, in turn. He doesn't have to be on the birth certificate, but he would have to acknowledge paternity through the court. The name of the form differs from state to state, I think, but in CA it is called the "Pet_tion to Establish Paternity." That will need to be on file before you can collect child support. In CA at least, most hospitals don't let you put the father's name on the birth certificate unless he is present to sign the Pet_tion.

 

tyler0323 - August 25

You can get support yes, but the father has to sign the birth certificate. If he signs it then he has right to his child until you take him to court for custody arrangments. If he claims he isnt the father (dosnt sign the certificate) then the courts will issue a paternity test before the custody arrangments.

 

preciousjewel - August 25

ok thanks I dont think its worth the risk. I dont want him to have anything to do with it.

 

Skyeblue - August 26

May I ask what your ex did that you would want to deny him all right and opportunity to visit his own child. At one time you must have seen some good qualities in him that led you to having an intimate s_xual and emotional relationship with him. Is it possible to focus on the positive, even if there isn't much there...I am always in dismay and so saddened when I read postings like this. May I ask how old you are and how old your ex is...?

 

preciousjewel - August 26

Im sure it does sadden you. Im 16 and hes 18. It was one of those things where my friends talked me into it and I was young so why not. But he completely ignorant and cant even keep a job for more than a week. And when I told him he said he wanted nothing to do with it or me so thats what hes getting. Im ashamed of him and completely regret it. I never want my kid to have to know him and have any qualities from him.

 

dsmom - August 26

i am in the same situation as you i do not want my child to know her father but for a very different reason, my husband was physically abusive and I consider him a danger to her,,,,,,,,but ther will come a time when she will have her own choice and I can only be completly truthfull to my child and let her decide for herself...While hes a minnor you can choose but you will have to let him decide when hes older......good luck and hope the best for u...

 

Skyeblue - August 27

You are 16 and had your friends "talk you into" a s_xual relationship with an 18 year old who is "completely ingnorant". My dear, it sounds like you too are an ignorant one. For your child's sake, do not be vindictive! You are BOTH teenagers and obviously he is freaking out, as would many teenagers. He doesn't have a job....do you...? How can you to be so severe in your judgement as to deem that the father of your child should have no right to see his child only after a few months of pregnancy. Now in a case such as dsmom, where the father was absuive, such reasoning is obvious. Have you even spoken with your ex? You said "when I am told he said.." that sounds to me it was told to you by someone else... Nevertheless, best be that your parents and his parents meet and discuss how to help you both raise their grandchild.

 

Franny - August 27

What is "not worth the risk" to have the father of your child have visitation rights...?!?! I have to agree with Skyeblue, it evident that adult intervention is needed in your situation in mediation. Hopefully the adults involved and you and your ex will take the time to sit down and hash out what is the best way to help raise your child and their grandchild. I am sure your ex has some anger towards you as well--justified or unjustified...at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter. I wish you both the best in raising your child.

 

Been There - August 28

Actually, it's not true that the father automatically has rights to visit the child just because he signs the birth certificate. If you are single and don't give the father the right to visit, you can refuse and he will have to take you to court to ask for visition. Paying child support is not an automatic right for visitation. A lot of people get that confused. Even if he does not sign the birth certificate, just as Mischelly says, you can still establish paternity in court. Preciousjewel, you will have to really think through what it is you want to accomplish and what you want for your child. My neice also had a deadbeat dad for years, but my sister never denied who the father was or tried to affect their relationship. My sister and the dad were teenagers too when she got pregnant. Now, 16 years later, my neice and her father have a great relationship and he (starting about 5 years ago) actually apologized to everyone about his actions. He was young and stupid, but finally matured and realized what was important. No offense, but just like you have some maturing to do (reflect on how you got in this situation by letting your friends decide for you), so does he. One day he may mature and become a great father. You never know. I hope you make the right decisions for your child's sake. Good luck to you.

 

lunamoo - August 28

I agree with the last few posts and have the same question, what is it you want to accomplish by not wanting the father to have "anything to do with it." Is IT your baby...? The high school drama you are in...? Please let your parents and your exs parents get involved and help out with the raising this child. More important than the financial child support you want from the father, you need the emotional support of both your families.

 

tyler0323 - August 28

i agree, to deny the child a relationship with his father is wrong, just because your p__sed with him. He is young and scared and he will grow up. does his parents know, because they should be told, they will be grandparents and they will be able to support their son through this and give him guidance. Put him on the birth certificate anyways, you dont have anything to loose. It will benefit you in the future if and when you file for custody. Give him a chance to grow up, your not the only one to think about in this situation

 

kscott - August 30

This is what I know from seeing similar circ_mstances. It is not legal advice, bc you should always consult an attorney However, If he is not on the birth certificate and has not voluntarily acknowledge paternity, you will probably need to go to court to establish paternity. This is a fairly simple process. He can consent or you can get a paternity test. He will not automatically get visitation, it depends on the cirsumstances of each case. A parent is required to pay support for their child regardless of it they get visitation or not. I hope this helps. You may also want to look at some legal self help sites for your state. Check out your state bar a__sociation website for helpful likns. I hope this helps.

 

Milan - September 4

No, You have to have the child first in order to lawfully get the money! I just went through this. Luckly, the father in LA and me in Austin, has stepped up to the plate due to me not working because of the pregnancy and he was the only means of income before I got pregnant. However, after the baby is born you and the father will have to go to court (if he is not willing to cooperate). But be prepared, you have to get a DNA test done first and then everything else is discussed. Oh, I do not forget to get his signature on the birth certificate! This is very important for child support!

 

Milan - September 4

Hi, Milan again. FYI if you want to know approxitmate figures on cs go to www.allaw.com/calculators/Childsupport.

 

Milan - September 4

Hey, and for you guy's that don't understand what it is like to be in an controlling/abusive relationship, maybe that's a good excuse in it's self to not allow or to get supervised visitation rights!

 

sunshyne9 - September 7

The easiest thing to do is to talk it over with your parents.. Being 16 yrs old im sure you are scared and maybe are not sure about waht you can or cannot do.. Do both your parents know?? I mean im sure that his parents will want to see there grandchild?? I hope you have people to stand behind you that's all. Im 30yrso ld and was afraid to tell my parents I was pregnant lol So being 16 im sure is alot worse. Good luck to you both and your baby!!

 

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