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First to April: I think you misunderstood me, what I'm saying is if a women knows who the father is and decides not to put him on the birth certificate and tells welfare that she doesn't know who the father is only to collect a__sistance, that is fraud. If you know who the father is he should be on the birth certificate. To whoever post "This is what "TO ALL" posted" I DID NOT post that statement, even though I agree with some of her comments I would not be so harsh as to call someone I don't know "sad" and "pathetic" So please don't jump on me for someone elses post.

in some states you CAN NOT put the father on the birth certificate unless A) you are legally married to him or B) IF you are unmarried he must come to the hospital before you and baby are discharged and sign an Agreement of Paternity form. Otherwise you must leave it blank and have it changed for a fee at a leter date. Also even if you are legally married to the father if it is less than about 280 days he still must sign an Agreement of Paternity form. I think some of you miss the point even when the father is known that does not mean he is capaable or even has any desire to help with the child. If he is unemployed or just an A-hole the state still has to spend time and resources just to figure this much out. In some cases aid is delayed until they get this info, what are you supposed to do about food for your baby during that time? I don't know about you but I am not beneath begging or stealing if it means my child will not go hungry. Sad thing is none of us should have to resort to that. Whoever said that only a mall portion of your tax dollars are going to these aid programs is correct. Much more of your money is going toward ensuring we have oil, so that it can be sold back to you at a huge profit for the already filthy rich.

I had an ex who refused to put his name on a birth cirtificate because he didn't think the baby was his. She claimed the baby his but also stated that "nothing's 100%". He refused to sign and or give the baby his last name and there was nothing she could do about it.

To All !!!... you're right, if someone knows who the father is, doesn't put them on the BC, and then tells the welfare office that they DON'T know who the father is then that is lying and that is fraud. BUT... if they don't put him on the BC and tell the welfare office that they DO know who the father is, but didn't put him on the BC for such and such reasons then that is NOT fraud. They probably won't get any a__sistance, but it's not fraud. That's why I tell people to only leave the father's name off the BC if you don't need child support or a__sistance. I really do think that some people have good reason to leave the father off of the BC. I don't think people should do it just because they're bitter, but if the father doesn't want rights, or he's abusive in some way.. I think it's alright to leave him off of the BC. You can always put him on later if it comes right down to it.

May I first say that many women have good reasons for not putting the father on the birth certificate and claiming they don't know who he is. I left my baby's dad after he pushed me in front of a moving car. I didn't deny his paternity and now I was basically forced into filing for child support since I receive a__sistance. Because of the paternity test to get support I can never deny him again and now he's always hara__sing me and doing things like putting the car seat sideways in his truck and taking her for days on end without telling anyone where they are. So please don't tell women not to do what may be in their child's best interests even if it is "illegal". Secondly read my post "to everyone" posted today. I take accountability and tell my story on how I took care of my child and am making my life better ALONE. Thanks all. Sara

Sara.... why are you letting your ex take your baby ANYWHERE if the child seat isn't in properly?? And how can he take your baby for days without informing anyone of where they are? I hope you have custody established through the courts, because if he should get the bright idea one day to just run off with her, there isn't a darn thing you could do about it. I really think that you should work to find proof of everything wrong he's doing that could endanger your daughter and go for custody with supervised visitation... because it sounds to me like he shouldn't have unsupervised yet if he can't even put the carseat in properly.

"I can support women who take responsibilities for her actions and says you know what I messed up what do I do now. But after reading all these different post I have yet to read where a women has taken responsibilitiy for her actions. It's always someone elses fault." I agree with a lot of what you said and this stood out to me because although my situation isn't the best and things will inevitably be hard for me and my child I couldn't be happier about having this baby. I did make a mistake (quite a few actually) and I came on here hoping to find some people with more experience than I have. If you can't gracefully except that someone else's opinion is bound to be different than your's then you need to rethink having a child because it would seem that you're not quite mature enough to give a child everything they need to grow up happy and HEALTHY (mentally and physically)

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OH PLEASE, who cares if your post got deleted complainig about it is not going to put your post back up. If this really upset you dont post anything on the site. I dont think people are asking for your support but your advice and opinion if they dont like what you have to say its their business dont lose sleep over it. Heres me thinking this site was for pregnancy not for moaning if you lot want to do that then create your own website. These posts bore me and make me laugh, actualy you should keep doing it as it keeps me entertained lol. . . . . . . . . . .to end on a good note to all who are pregnant and want to be Congrats and good luck . . . . . Mwaaah . . . . xxx