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Oh and Newbaby, I'm not against spanking either. I really don't know if I'd do it myself, I guess I'd just have to wait and see. I think that if that's what the parent thinks is best for their kid I'm no one to tell them it's wrong. Some kids are really out of control and I wouldn't blame them for slapping them on the wrist. I, myself, was spanked as a child.

well waht an idoit he obviously was! i got spanked im not in prison i know kids that never got disiplined when they were my age and there the ones now who go out and get arrested!! thats riduclas i think he may of got it the wrong way around!

I was abused as a child so everyone thought id be adament about not spanking. If su saying "no" or hand smacking worked then we wouldnt. But it doesnt and we're definately not going to just let her get her way. They do say that most mentally messed up people were abused as children. Such as serial killers etc. That why alot of them get off with much lesser punishment then they deserve. I dont agree with it. Im living proof you can rise above it and have a "normal" life.

Angel what are you talking about? He never said every single person who was spanked will end up in prison...He said that people who aren't spanked don't end up in prison because every single person currently in prison was spanked as a child. He was trying to make a point that spanking may lead to violent or otherwise law-breaking behavior. Of course it doesn't happen to everyone who was spanked. I was spanked I've never broken the law in my life besides underage s_x. I don't even jaywalk or litter. I don't know how I can make this more clear. Newbaby I agree that's stupid. I wasn't really abused as a kid, not physically anyway, but I know a ton of people who were and they turned out great. Harold was abused as a child, really bad... even s_xually... and he's the best man I know. Some people see abuse as a way to turn things around and be a better person, others just get messed up completely. One is the right way, the other is cowardly. Props to you girl! lol

I don't "spank" but I will tap her hand if she doesn't listen, and last resort only when it comes to things like touching the oven I give her a little tap on the bottom only to get her to be like "... uh oh" and not hurt to cry. I'm big on time outs and telling her NO gently but to where she KNOWS.

amanda dont hurt yourself thinkiing you have to keep making it clear, i understood the 1st time i just wnated you to point it out again so i didnt get attacked for jumping to conclusions............i still think its the stupidist thing i,ve heard...........here its the kids who are not punished in any kind of way that end up in prison.....the amount of peope i have seen it happen to! all the bad crouds my mum was adimint i shouldnt hang around with (and if i did i would get punished in some kind of way so i would know not to do it again! well that bad cround most of them are in prison! if my mum did not pinish me when i disobayed her her and went out with them i would og carried on doign it and be where they are......so i thinks its the other way around most kids in prison is because they didnt know right from wrong they are not scared of breaking the law as they have never been punished for doing bad things let alone getting spanked!!

Okay.... Well there was a study done in 2007 about it... So I really don't know how he could be wrong. I have the study on a photocopied piece of paper somewhere in my room.... I've never heard of anyone not being punished at all. If you have parents it's easier to slap them across the face and be abusive then have them running around causing all kinds of trouble... even if the parents don't care about their children at all. And I know several orphan children who aren't punished but have to punish themselves in order to get buy. They may have ended up in juvi, or jail, but not prison.

well then its just another one of thoses things where im going to say kids here are obviously different.............i know a couple of girls there parents did not punish them as they were blind drunk 24/7 and didnt even know where they were or what they were doing most of the time and when they did they didnt care! both are in prison now.....so there you have heard now! i just didnt like what you said i thought it was a bit pointed at me sayin oh you got spanked your going to prison kinda thing..............well thats what i thought and thats what my point so im done

Well my childhood, i wouldnt' concider abusive from my parents really. I mean, they are my parents and were giving what they thought reasonable punishment. They didn't violently hit or punch me in anyway....while i was young at least..I'll get to that later...however, they did make me go intoa room pull my pants down and would one either bring the belt my dad had that gave me welts, a wooden spoon or spatula. depending on my offense. They would also use their hands while in public...and didn't care what other people thought. They did that until i was about 10..and it worked pretty well on me and my sister. We didn't do much and we always knew what was coming. it did get pretty violent in the future though, around 13 or 15 years old. My brother had a mouth on him, and we didn't know it at the time but my dads temper turned out to be a chemical imbalance in his brain causing...violent behavior. My brother was normally the target, but me lovingvmy brother in that i dont want to fight or anyone get hurt kinda way but still hated him thing, normally put me in the middle. I would sometimes get int he middle, sometimes taking the b__w. Or when he got violent with words and his voice...he got pretty in your face..but in regards to the spanking type they did on me. I have to admit i knew when to be good and when to behave. some kids really get out of control in public and should be taught to behave their parents. I wouldn't hit my child, or at least dont plan to...and by hit i mean spank on the b___t. But I probably will...its not going to kill them...its not abuse, its punishment and dicipline. although we had another way with lucas that worked where smaking his b___t wasn't needed. (only in rare...very rare cases does he not listen.) as long as a child has no broken bones, bruises, or is really getting wailed on...i see no problem with smaking the hands, or b___t.

haha, thanks amanda!

pb thats pretty close to my up bringing ecept it was my mum not my dad...but i agree i hated at the tiem but now i thank her for the person she made me if it wasnt for my punishments i could be in prison like the other girls i knew.................she made me to scared to do the bad things in life which im gratful for.....so yea i totally dont think upbringings like ours would give us more chance to going to prison lol...far from it

She didn't make me feel bad when i was a kid when i knew something was wrong. it was my punishment, i dont think if you spank a chid then they are going to go to prison. thats just ridiculous., i'm sure that some of those people in prison are just sick and were given everything they wanted..including no spanks...its impossible that every person in prision was spanked as a child and a completely retarded theory. however, there are a lot who were abused and that doesn't suprise me. Its hard to get on with life....i mean it was hard for me, still is when i moved acrossed the ocean to get away from my psyco dad, who went nuts. I just visited there in august, and i was only there for 2 weeks and wanted to slit my throat. Sometimes kids need a good lesson, but never should it get out of control like my dad did.

i totally agree wether they done a study on it or not i think its bull! i actual think a child who is bought up from knowing right to wrong is less likley to go to prison than someone who isnt bought up like thta just dragged up and there parents let them get away with murder ect.............im glad someone agrees with me

Wouldn't someone who is 'sick' committing these crimes end up in a mental hospital instead of prison? And usually someone who is mentally ill is that way due to an abusive past... Those who get it genetically, and are to the point of committing crimes due to their illnesses probably have a parent who has the same illness, and is probably beating them as well. Though it may have something to due with the times, not physically punishing your children is a relatively new idea. I'm only pa__sing on what my parenting teacher said.

Well I would consider someone that enjoys raping a women to be mentally ill, but alright. I can't imagine anyone who lived a normal life jumping up and killing someone... that is considered a mentally unhealthy thing to do. It's not normal, nor in our nature, to kill other people. Humans are social creatures. Even in a case of...say... someone cheating (I was watching the Shawshank Redemption the other day) If a guy caught his wife cheating he may have thoughts of killing them, and that's normal, but actually killing them is considered abnormal behavior. A normal reaction to being cheated on might be screaming, crying etc but any violent behavior is a psychological issue probably brought about by being taught violence at an early age... whether witnessing it or bring a victim of it. However, I apologize, I believe I was being unclear. The study was not widespread... It was a small college project.

amanda just because someone who is prison for stuff like it does not mean that they were beat as i child! jeesh what a stupid theory! they were most lilley not taught right from wrong by the blinf drunk smacked up parents who barley remembered that they exsisted!! and amamnda if a man who was in prison for rape was mentally ill they would be in a mental hospital wouldnt they! but there not because they are not mentally ill! they dont know right from wrong, there not scared or see why they shouldnt do the thingsd the are wrong on life as they were never taught by punishment!! im sorry if that stupid teacher was right wouldnt me and pb be in prison!! oh and db! im sure theres others to! i seriously wouldnt take parenting adviced from your teacher if thats the stuff he spews out