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I probably shouldn't waste my time by replying but since everyone has no problem adding their two cents then what the hell! twins4us I find it hilarious that you are suddenly so concerned that Kim McCloud is not taking her pregnancy serious. I'm glad she has people like you to tell her that pregnancies with multiples are high risk. Thanks for clearing that up and I am gosh darn awful sorry you are so traumatized that someone took your kids pics and have now decided to stop ALL of the injustice by bashing other women. to be honest I think Kim McCloud is a woman that knows her body and I am amazed by that. And corona my statement was harsh as was yours. Children lead by example. I hope they dont follow yours. And as for the " I have a dream" well ladies I have a dream that one day woman will support eachother instead of bashing eachother. I have a dream that one day we as woman can stop the drama and the madness and I have a dream that your children are not affected by their parents stupidity.

Ummmmm okay. I have a laptop and I connect from several different locations at any given time...what the hell is wrong with you people. that is a direct invasion of people's privacy. Twins4us-you need to have your hormone levels checked I think they are out of whack! (hmmm just like you)

Twins4us: I really think its crazy that you've devoted yourself to catching trolls.. I mean honestly how much did it really hurt you to find out someone stole your kids pics.. Heck everyone out there can steal my kids pics. I'll be pretty proud that they thought they were cute enough to try and pa__s off as their own. Aside from the pics how is a troll hurting someone by lying about their own life? I could really careless if someone lies about their own life.. Its not my business to shut them up.. And I sure cant imagine myself starting a website to catch intenet liars.. I mean for goodness sake they aren't scaming people out of their money or putting viruses on their computers or even inviting kids to their house to molest.. I mean those are the REAL internet problems.. You should start a site to catch them. Honestly I would think that at your age you'd have much better things to do then to worry yourself about who it lying and who is not............ As for the coment about the ultrasound.. I mean honestly what difference does it make it someone waits a week for their schedualed ultasound as opposed to them going in to the ER right away. Its not like she was bleeding or something. She didn't suspect anything was wrong so why would she need an ultrasound pronto. If I were preg and suspected twins or more then I would have waited until the next ultrasound too. Its not like she was waiting months, She was waiting days.. A few days isn't going to make a difference as long as things are going well and she doesn't seam to have any ill effects or health related complaints.... And one more thing about the starting your own forum thing.. This forum is called "Twins and Multiple Birth" It isn't called "women pregnant with twins or multiples' nor does it say "parents of twins or multiples" It is supposed to be for people who have questions or concerns about wanting, having or for people who have had twins or multiples... And I'll tell you the want for twins is just as strong as anyones want for a single healthy baby.. The fear of having twins is just as real as the fears you face while you are carrying them.. The only reason people who aren't pregnant with twins or suspect they may be, come here is to ask for advice, listen to shared experiences and better educate themeselves on the possibilities. I dont think anyone should be condemed for that. If you think that we shouldnt be here then open your own forum called "Parents of Twins or Mulitples" Most of us wont enter it as it would obviously not be for people who aren't yet...

Well, calling people names like “insane, stupid and bad parents”, it is obvious that your "dream" of women supporting each other isn't going to start with you. Also, just because your pictures are on the internet so all people can view them, does not mean it isn’t against the law to steal them (it is) and it is invasive and violating when it happens to you. As benign as you may believe a troll is, just seeing how it has played with everyone’s emotions on here shows the power and the havoc they can create (not saying Kim is a troll). They can also take money, gifts and I believe worst of all, a person’s trust. It is a huge problem and the FBI gets involved with some of them. It isn’t about a person that is just lying; you have to think what is wrong with them mentally that they need to lie and how deep does it go and how far they will take their deceit. Questioning something is a lot smarter than taking it at face value, especially on the internet.

"Questioning something is a lot smarter than taking it at face value, especially on the internet." I agree but do you not think that maybe people should question it to themselves and not try to humiliate someone over the net. I do understand that people trying to catch and out trolls are just trying to save others from the hurt of having trusted someone who didn't deserve it, but isn't that a lesson that they should be allowed to learn on their own? Honestly this is how I feel about Kims situation.. I dont believe she is a troll (I could be wrong) however I do believe that the story could go two ways.. She could be telling the truth and just not be real good at expressing herself over the net. She might really believe she is pregnant with multiples and she might indeed be pregnant with them.. However I sort of thing that she might have just felt gas bubbles and other rumblings and really believed in her heart of hearts that these were baby movements. I know she has been pregnant many times before but I also know how long ago the last time was. I myself have 2 children who are only 22 months apart. You'd think that the second time around I would have been able to tell the bubbles from movement but I really couldn't. O can honestly see how someone might truely believe they are pregnant with multiples because I felt bubbles EVERYWHERE,lol.. I sort of wondered myself.. But I am young and have no reason to have been pregnant with them.. So it really didnt stick in my mind for long.. In Kims case she is an older women, who at that is black and has had many other children.. ALL of these things contribute to a higher chance of having multiples. Correct me if I am wrong but is it not a proven fact that they older you are, the more children you've had previously and the race that you are are all factors that increase the chance/risk of multiples.. Now I am sure if she is anything like me she has done TONS of research on all of this and a persons mind can really play tricks on them.. expecially if they have some written doc_mentation to back up what they believe.. She may indeed believe she is carrying multiples and of course she will do and say everything she can that might help her belief become more believable to herself and to others.. (my mind does this too me also sometimes,lol) So.. her intentions may have never been bad, and she may actually be preg with multiples OR she may just really believe she is..... .... .... One more thing before I click submit... Twins4us: I didnt not mean to make my last post sound like I was calling you crazy.. I dont think your crazy... I dont think your a bad person.. I just think you feel that you have invested alot of yourself in this topic that you must somehow prove her and others wrong. In my opinion its crazy to have a whole site devoted to catching trolls.. But that is my opinion about the site and not you.. I think alot of things are crazy and useless.. Doesn't mean that they are in fact crazy, just saying thats what I think of them,lol.. Please don't take offense.

I believe you are right about too much time and effort to prove either side, has been put into this and I do find it odd as well as freaky. All the things like race, age, family and number of children do increase her chances a bit and she may be pregnant with twins, but I am with you with gas rather than movement, especially at 6 weeks, even if it is twins. It is what I had thought but knew that if I posted that, it would have been ripped to shreds because she knows her body so well that she can tell how many placentas she has and she knows she has a least two. Maybe she is that intuned and can feel them but I couldn't and didn't even know I was having twins and I had been pregnant with twins before (lost first set). It might come out that she is pregnant with twins, triplets or one. If she is a troll it may continue or just fade away. I am with you that I don't believe she is a troll but I don't want to belittle the damage a troll can do. I got emotionally involved with a poster's story. I cried for the twins she lost in a car wreck. People sent her money and prayed for her and her babies. Turns out it was all a lie, including ever having twins. She set up her story of having twins for months before "killing them off". Sick and twisted.

Oh wow samehere that is twisted.. I can see how something like that might upset someone!!!

I think If someone is treated unfairly its everyones place to come in and try to help the attackee when they havent done anything to warrant the situation. Anyone who has been bullied or has had a child bullied would understand that. this post is mean and I wonder why its still up. I want to thank each and every one of you who stepped up to help kim because it stops something like this from spreading and makes other ppl who may be thinking to do something like this to someone else take a second thought. i am new to this board and I have read a few posts and was horrified to see this. I hope this wont happen anymore. Anyone could be a victim. And what proof can you give over the internet to prove youre really pregnant???!? What proof can you give to prove youre really you!!?!? anyone could attack anybody.

Have anyone of you actually looked at some of KimMcCloud's posts? Her story changes a lot! In November she was SURE she was 2 months pregnant. In beginning of Jan. she was SURE she was 16 weeks but doc said 5? Um, I have to agree with twins4us- her stories are CRAZY!

I gave her those words to give her what she wanted. Before I spoke like that..My kindness and defense was unrespected. So I figured she would be more satisfied with me to speak such words. It isn't how I speak..

denimb___terfly - I actually do not know all the weeks and months or how they are medically calculated. SO YES I could be wrong. All I can say is.. I was pregnant in Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, and March. And I won't waiver with that. However long implantation, conception, floating in uterine, all that jazz..I don't get into that nor do I care to know. All I knew is..I WAS PREGNANT. And maybe some of you will never understand that.

You don't know how all the weeks & months are medically calculated but you've had 5 other children?? That's seems very odd.

You know why it's odd to you? Because I AM NOT YOU!!!!!!!! Yes I have 5 children. I had beautiful pregnancies, pleasant births, and wonderful children. That's all that mattered to me. I knew I was pregnant, I heard heartbeats, and I delivered when they were ready to come out. I never had medical concerns or questions. I had great health and all was well. The most pleasant 5 experiences I ever had! I never had a complication, I b___st fed them all until they were 1 or more. I DO NOT FEEL the way you did to know all the when I can conceive, checking my d__n chart, waiting, trying to get pregnant..You Truly don't understand.

KimMcCloud- why are you even on this website? You already know everything. You know your body better than doctors. You say you had beautiful pregnancies, pleasant births, and wonderful children and NEVER any medical concerns or problems. Why are you wasting your time on here anyways???? Especially with 3 professions and 5 children. Wow. You are like superwoman on steroids.

I came here in good spirit to speak to other woman and share experiences and just to speak about Pegnancy.

Yes I do know my body better then doctors..I would be foolish not to. But what does that have to do with me sharing pregnancy and talking to other woman?