NICE Question For Kim McCLoud
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Kim-my suggestion is to just ignore comments.... Its your body. I am a 100% believer in your own intuition. I would have known with my two pregnancies if something was wrong with the baby. I am an advocate of prenatal check ups, but in the very beginning in my opinion except maybe for the routine blood work its pointless. Untill usually 12 weeks you can't hear the heart beat via doppler, and in my ob clinic they don't do U/S's until 20 weeks unless there is a question regarding due date. Back in the day, they never had prenatal appointments and the fancy things they have now, and our parents and grandparents survived! Sheeesh people. I don't think she is being irrisponsible at all. She has had 5 pregnancies so far not including this one, Im pretty sure she's a vetran at this. She is in tune with her body.
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CORONA you are wrong! My ob doctor told me that she has NEVER discovered twins via listening to the heart beat(s) via doppler. She says the baby's heart beat can change so fast by movements, activitiy and rest and its not a sure way to determine twins. She said the only real way is to see via u/s get your facts straight.....
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SAMEHERE-if you know so much, you would also know that measuring the fundal height is not accurate until after the 20th week. My ob did not even start measuring the fundal height until then. Seriously, at this early stage in the game, what exactly are they going to be able to do if something wasn't exactly right? The only sure fire way at this point would be to do an amnio do determine any genetic deffects. And also there are certain determining factors that make women at higher risk for having multiples. 1.)age 2.) number of previous pregnancies hmmm I believe that she has both on her side! Not that she is old, but they say after the age of 35 or there abouts your chances are higher. She did not say what kind of nurse her husband is.. If he works in a nursing home or does home health he would not have all the "connections as you say." I am a nurse, I don't have connections. I don't get any special treatment. The only thing they do for me is don't try to talk in lamens terms when discussing medical stuff. Lets go back to the other thing I mentioned... Back 50 years ago they didn't have all the medical advances they do now. Heck when my sister was born they didn't even do u/s then.
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CatalinaD-that is so true... most doctors a__sume everybody is a textbook case. They have this symptom or that and a__sume that must be what is wrong. That is why I decided to go into the health profession-nursing-so that maybe I could make a difference in people's lives. I believe them when they are in pain. I believe them when they say something isn't right, just because test results say everything is fine. Im sorry about your dad. Its very sad when they don't believe you or dx you wrong. I watched a doctor who was p__sed off at a nurse rip a patients chest tub out with out warning or premedicating him. He was mad because he a__sumed the nurse didn't secure his dressings and the chest tube wasn't secure. The poor patient came right off the bed in agony. He was trying to scare the nursing students who were in the room observing. The doctor got wrote up, and a malpractice suit filed against him. I felt so sorry for that patient! He could have caused a pneumothorax or air bubble in that poor guys chest!
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Corona: You think that MDs are different?? The ones that treated my dad, compared to lets say your ob/gyn or mine or anyones MD? Do you think they are different because they choose different fields? I beg to differ!! Almost all MDs are short changed because of the HMO. You think they make alot of money your complete wrong.. They make very little money for the time they put in the hosp. or private practice.. Do you think that doesn't have an effect on they work ethics or moral? I certainly think so! They are under paid and don't give a c___p about an of the ants "people" that cruise into their office or hosp. with problems.. If it were their family or friend, Yes they would have special tx, but you, me and everyone else doesn't mean a d__n thing.. I'm not talking about nurses, I'm talking about MDs.. Nurses have training for bed side manors, tx with care, and a gentle hand. Are doctors taught that, Most certainly not! OBs are the same. I agree prenatal is important, but to put the amount of weight you have is kinda negligent on your part.. Number one key to a health preg. is the mother, NOT md.. If there is something wrong, you will know and should go to the er to find out what's wrong.. IF you don't get the answer your looking for, it's probably the MD not looking hard enough.. My point being THE MOTHER IS FIRST IN LINE.. Don't count on your MDs..
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Please let me add, my father was only 54 yrs young when they killed him. He wasn't old and sickly, young vibriant and ready for the next 20 yrs..
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ASHLEY- supposedly, Kim is around 20 weeks so there you go. Answer this; if you honestly thought you were pregnant with 3 babies (very high risk) and you were about 20 weeks, would you skip your monthly appointment? I know I wouldn’t but I am very protective of my young. A monthly check-up if more for the mother's health and with such a risk to the mother with a multiple pregnancy like 13, yes 13 times more likely for heart failure, 4 times more likely for heart attack, more likely for diabetes, pre-e and all the fun stuff that comes with pregnancy but is much more likely with a multiple pregnancy, you think it WISE to skip an appointment for a month?????? They aren't going to check this at her u/s and that is something they aren't going to find on an u/s.
CatalinaD- I'm sorry about your dad. I too lost my dad to bad medical care. I am not here saying that all doctors are great for I know a lot aren't. I am questioning why Kim would not go to a check up when she thinks she is pregnant with a ton of babies? I also find it ironic that she is bashing the very profession she is in and I wonder if it is because the experience from the care she receives or gives.
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Also CatalinaD, there are a lot of great DR's out there that care and have saved many, many lives. My OB is one of them. I believe because of her, I carried my twins for as long as I did (full term). She treated me with care and concern and I was even called at home by her. It isn't the DR or MD, it is the person behind the degree.
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Samehere-When I was pregnant with 1 yes just 1, I missed an appointment or two. I was working in a clinic and checked my own blood pressure, urine and heart beat. I think prenatal appointments to some extent is just a ploy to get more money from the consumer. If you feel physically fine, feel movement from the baby(ies), whats the big deal? At 20 weeks if they delivered them that early, they probably wouldn't survive. They'd need at least a couple more weeks. She's going to her U/S and if there is more than one, then they will refer her to a specialist, BUT it wouldn't be the first time that a doctor didn't believe a mom who said she thought she was having twins, just because she measured right. And as I recall, she said she was measuring ahead and looked 7 months along. I measured 4 weeks ahead my entire pregnancy until I dropped and then measured 2 weeks behind. The fundal height is only a a guideline, not set in stone. It can indicate a drastic growth spurt or something if it jumps drastically in a couple weeks time. I started showing at 12 weeks and felt movement at 11-13 weeks (cant remmeber) Nope she wouldn't give me an early u/s and had to wait for 20 weeks.
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CatalinaD- I HATE going to the DRs. I suffer from "white coat syndrome" where the site of a DR just sets my blood pressure right up and I want to vomit. I had to monitor my blood pressure at home as well as going to my appoinments so they knew it was nerves and not pre-e. Of course, they can tell if they lay you on your left side, but it was becoming tiresome. Like you, as much as I hated it and if it were just about me, I probably wouldn't go, I went when it came to my babies and their health, for if something happened to them that could have been prevented from proper prenatal care, I couldn't and wouldn't live with the guilt.
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My mother is a nurse. has been for 15 years. SHE HATES DOCTORS!! She hates going to the doctors and has a 1000 stories about why she'd never. stories of some doctors that have almost killed ppl!! With my last child I went to about 8 appts out of 9 months. I just couldnt find a doctor that i trusted and was comfortable with. My ob before that tried 3 times to give me a depo shot WITHOUT my permission. It just so happens i had read up on making sure you get the right care when your in the hospital and asked the nurse what was in the needle she was preparing to shoot me with!!! this happened 2 more times even after i spoke to the dr. she was mad at me!! and i had just had only my 2nd child. So I understand missing visits as long as youre fine. I understand treating yourself at home, even with multiples. My friend was pregnant with twins and didnt see a dr for like 4 months for several reasons. I am not aganist all dr's but i believe in taking control of your prenatal care. maybe this can be the folder you visit without being hara__sed kim. when mean ppl write just ignore and no one answer then they wont have anything to feed off of...and having someone in the medical prefession doesnt mean you get great care. with all the people my mother knew, she had to have surgery last year on her NECK AND SPINE!! very risky. her connections couldnt save her from whatever the drs did and now she needs another. shes still waiting to come out of her neck brace. its been 15 months. and they are all ready to prep her again. ....
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Corona - "however in the mean time if you're so sure that you're having multiples you could have heard both heartrates ot the doctors office & stopped all the suspence. " YOU'RE the only one in suspense..ha ha ha! You have truly failed to realize that you are You and I am Me! You have NO reason with this. I DON'T FEEL THE WAY YOU DO. I don't have the "NOT KNOWING" issues you have. If I know what's in there..WHY do I need a doctor to kill my suspense? I didn't need a doctor to tell me I was pregnant. I'm not bashing my profession. I went to school to be a CNA and my husband is a geriatric nurse. NOW! I just wanted to make some extra money and have something to fall back on..I do not have feelings about the medical field you do. I have 3 professions. I own a Nail Salon and when I'm not doing nails..I do a few web pages on the side for people and I NEVER do nursing and just stay ceritified by choice.
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Kim- you don't need to explain your situation to anybody. If you know in your heart the truth, then screw what every body else thinks. You can type on here until you are blue in the face and it wont change some peoples opinions. Im sorry. I hope your pregnancy is healthy and uneventful and I hope you get the answers you search, whether by u/s confirmation or when you give birth. I would never wish ill harm on anybody or thier unborn baby. Good luck.
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Why am I in suspense Kim??? My babies are already here...they are not my imagination!! 3 careers..? aren't you the busy one. What job are you going to have next week? I sure hope it's not teaching. Now on the ASHLEY...I have said it before ....I live in Canada & therefore do not deal with HMOs. This is a global site so everyone has different medical care. However, ! thing is dominate the world over. No "mother" has the right to put her unborn child/ren at risk!! PERIOD!
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A mother has "every" right to do what she pleases to her body and her child, because they both belong to her. Even abortion that is why it is legal. You need to keep your mouth shut around here. You ARE the one in expense. I don't have the problems you have. You keep saying I should PROVE them..But to who??? To myself?? So what that you have twins. And who cares how they were conceived, confirmed, etc. But you have some VERY serious issues or unhappiness with yourself. I am a realist and my pregnancy isn't in my imagination. You're sitting around trying to prove me wrong, and not realizing how much of a fool you are making yourself look like.
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Most Importantly Corona - I don't care what you think or say. But just as it is easier and highly likely for a black woman to conceive twins/multiples NATURALLY. You have to understand it is EASIER for us to carry them to full term. OUR bodies are different..And I don't give a d__n what you say..We tend to be more hipper, big b___ts, shaped different. Our hair is different, our skin is different, black doesn't crack ALL kinds of differences. You can not put me in your catagory by any means. Except for the fact that we are both female and conceive. You really need to keep your mouth shut.
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