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again u respond w/o actually researching what you r saying and that's sad....but its ok... like I said when they decide to go after buyers I will be here laughing saying told you so. and before you decide to call me out again...read my name like I said you don't read there is no 'r' in my name and yet you keep putting it in there... but that just shows your iggnorance and unability to read. gl

Listen it's a shame that Tish has nothing to do but to post on a site she's against... My husband has his masters from California State University, and my BA is from University of Phoenix... So, that settles that, as for everything else.... Forget it... It's a waste of time and awaste of valuable forum sopace to discuss this matter any longer, so I am though with talking to Tish... I sypathised long enough and tried to give her enough information that it's now just a waste of energy.... ............................................................................................................................................................................I would like to appoligise to the other ladies on the forum for poluting what this site is meant for..... For individuals like mayself to come on and discuss the physical risks of taking clomid, as well as to be a great support group for each other... Clomid is hard to take even when you have a perscription, I know alot of us do have perscriptions and out RE's are monitoring us because we ovulate on our own.... It's scary because we don't know what to exspect... That is what this site is for, and yes,.......we do discuss multiple riskes, but we do not promote the use of it for multiples... We only discuss the risks and support each other, as well as give out information if oneof us become PG with muliples or singletons.... Ether way, w all would feel blessed with any baby............................................................................. My husband has been a great father to the two children I already have.... One with special needs, and he's not even biologically his..... But he's an awsome father who diserves to experience it from the begining.... So, we're trying to have a baby... I lost the one last month (with out using clomid) so clomid is to help my body produce healthier eggs with better chromosomes and to produce better progestrone levels.... I'm extreemly excited about testing.... I hope that htis month I can post a BFP... I'm on 8dpo.... Where is every one else on thier cycle day or fays past ovulation?................................................................... I'm going away this week end... Hubby is taking me up to the white mountains here in Arizonafor a family get away and to get my mind off from testing for three days... By the time I come back, I'm hoping that I will get a posative test result with a more exspensive test.... I'll keep you ladis posted...

I would never do anything that's illegal. Here's some info from the DEA's webpage concerning internet pharmacies and what's illegal to buy from them. Federal law prohibits buying controlled substances such as narcotic pain relievers (e.g., OxyContin®, Vicodin ®), sedatives (e.g., Valium®, Xanax®, Ambien®), stimulants (e.g., phentermine, phendimetrazine, Adderall®, Ritalin®) and anabolic steroids (e.g., Winstrol®, Equipoise®) without a valid prescription from your doctor. This means there must be a real doctor-patient relationship, which by most state laws requires a physical examination. Prescriptions written by "cyber doctors" relying on online questionnaires are not legitimate under the law. It's illegal to buy CONTROLED susbstances without a script. Clomid does not fall into any of the above categories. Thank you for your warnign though Tish.... I'm sure you were just rtying to look out for us, but if you get into the nitty griity parts of the law, Clomid is not a controled substance. I think if anyone wants to argue any further, then please, only show information from your research supporting the facts... please refrain from further personal attacks..

tish: i already have researched what i said so you can stick that in your nose. and only two times have we called you trish. get over it. your annoying attacks have made you that unimportant to us that we don't notice what your name is. so get off your high horse and get off the forums if you can't state your opinion and leave it at that. you're ent_tled to yours and we are ent_tled to think you are wrong. attacking someone because you don't want to believe that they are educated has no place no this board. it's poor taste to do so and when enough ladies get tired of it, they will have you removed from the boards. so stop wasting your time and ours. why are you on these boards anyway? are you pregnant with twins or more? are you ttc? or did you just come here to be a pain in our b___ts? if so you can feel free to leave and we won't miss you. we have told you Clomid is not considered a controlled substance and therefore not illegal to obtain or possess. it is only illegal to distribute. and i don't see any of the ladies here offering to sell it. you want them to be safe and make sure they don't get in trouble for buying these meds. point taken. thank you and good bye. ashgirl: i'm sure she'll tell you you're wrong and that the Patriot Act says she's right so thank you for trying, but on some people it's lost.

at least someones doing research...but the fda states that any prescription drug obtained with out a valid prescription is illegal. (meaning no web questionaires) but that u ashgirl for seeing that I wasn't preaching I was just making sure everyone knew what the risks are. I just fear that taking a medicine like clomid without being monitored and self medication is dangerous. and I am scared that the desire for a child has gtten so strong in some they are willing to risk their own health...which saddens me...if they do hve a child their child needs a healthy mother... I was just concerned after reading all the posts that no one had mentioned the dangers. please ladies just do the research on this medication and any other med u decide to obtain...that way you know its 100% safe for YOU to take...each person is different ...medical histories are different, just make sure you are being safe. gl hope u all get ur dreams.

*puts hand up at Tish and tunes her out completely*................................................................... Well, I did a cheepie test and I'm not sure, but I think I see a light shadow... it could be an evap girls so don't get your hopes too high... When I get back from my vacation this week end, on Tuesday.... I will test with a name brand reliable test to determine if this is an evap or an early detection.... Only time will still tell, but crossing fingers for all of us.... I will post to you ladies on tuesday and let you know where I stand....

Irish: Ive also thought in my head about testing on Tuesday. Im so exciting, but I think Im setting myself up for a fall. It seems unbelievable that clomid could work first time. Just think a Christmas without drink! Anyway I'm getting ahead of myself again. I hope all the other ladies out there get their Xmas wish

my Christmas wish would be that during my sister's baby shower (Dec. 8th) I would get to tell her that i'm pregnant. i feel like all baby dreams for me are pipe dreams, but that would be a wonderful gift for me. i wouldn't want anything else for Christmas. i'm just finding it harder and harder to stay optimistic about it.

Well, I took a test today; it was negative. But it is still really early, and I think the test was a cheap one. I just cant wait. I know Im setting myself up for a fall. Ive got sore b___bs and I feel cramping pains. Anyone else feels these?

Dinks: Don't give up.... Alot of people don't get posatives untill after they miss their periods, and the cheepies pick up the hormone alot later.... if you wanna know sooner... Take a first response... If you're really early it will be very faint, almost like an evap, but it will have pink tint... There are no evaps on the first response breand.... I took anouther first response test today when I got home from my vacation with a very diluted pee sample that I used... The evap has now turned into a very faint second pink lne... Crossing fingers that this is it.... That this is my early BFP and that this one will stick... I feel in every bone in my body, that I am pregnant.... And the test does show a faint BFP..... So, time will tell.... I'll take anouther one first thing int he mourning if I manage to hold my urine long enough, and if it's brighter, I'll let you know..... Thursday, I take the digital....

Please help.... I would like to know when you would use the Mucinex?? Is it during BD time.... but what about after Ovulation.... do i still take it to be sure or is there something bad about taking it too long??? We are ttc#3. I would love two babies.... because DH says we are done after this one.... Any insight would help -- BTW, first two kids were clomid kids--only 50mgs. Now my doc has me on 150mg... im on CD4 and started clomid on CD2. PLEASE someone respond. i havent had much luck figuring this thing out--posting thing. Thanks !! baby dust to all:-) ***************************************

Sarah: Im afraid I cant help, I didn't take or use anything other than clomid. But I wouldn't think that its a good idea hoping for twins! If you have two children at home already I think twins would be bloody hard work. I would just hope for one healthy bouncing baby. But that said I dont want to judge u, so i wish you all the luck and baby dust. Irish: I didn't even use a first morning sample, I have got an early responce test now and I too will wait a few more days to test again. I have just sold my house, and the purchasers said they want to be in by the 15TH of December!!! I ve now got to buy another house and move all before Xmas. So at least if I'm not preg I will have plenty to occupy my mind! But I'm looking for a bigger house so I can fill it with children!

Sarah35 - this is what I've read from others postings, if they expect to O on CD 14: Make sure to take a prenatal (with high level of folic acid) and fish oil every day starting one month prior......12 hour Mucinex on CD 8-18.....Preeseed CD 10-O.....Baby Asprin (81mg) CD 14->.....and if you want extra help, you can buy the instead cup, which supposedly holds your DH's donation in place longer. Hope that helps. Dinks and Irish-I'm looking forward to hearing about your BFPs this month! Sending lots of baby dust your way! I JUST received a notice of shipment from the place I ordered from! Seems like it's going to take forever to get here... but I'm not in a huge rush now because we're buying a house the 1st week of Dec and need to repaint the whole thing. I don't want to paint while preggers/TTC... so I'll have to wait to take the Clomid till the end of Dec.

Yeah, I'mnot trying for multiples. Prefer a singleton, but am ready for the responsablit_ty of more then one... After all, I do run a day care and have two infants now, two todlers in diapers, and a preschooler, as well as my two school age boys... So, I'm well trained for the responsablilities of multiples.... As for testing, still not sure if that one was a definate posative.... It could've just been a shadow or some thing, it was so faint that you really couldn't see much... It could've just been the strip line for the hormone to settle into... So, we'll wait untill at least Thusday US time..............................................As for the Mucinex.... Sense it only lasts 12 hours, I took it every 12 hours from the last day of my clomid-on.... I used my ov watch so there's been no guessing my ovulation time and my fertile time, and the ov watch works with the clomid beter because it won't give off a false posative fromt he clomid like the urine tests...... I live an dbreath by that thing....!.......................................................................Can't wait for the trying to concieve insanity ends and I can just relax and enjoy the fruits of my labor..... Untill then I'll keep you ladies posted..... .....................PS it did take me 10 days to get my meds from quality generics on line..... Good luck and I hope your shipments all come in soon.....

Well, I think I miscarried early again... I was getting faint BFPs last night.... Tried this mourning with a fresh mourning sample and got a negative..... Now the digital says negative.... I know it isn't over till AF shows her ugly face.... But, I feel cramping comming on.... If I don't get my period by the Thursday, I'll try testing again and if it's still negative, I'll stop the progestrone.... By then I should have a good posative if I am... But byt he way I feel, I'll get AF before then.... I have a real sure feeling I was PG..... The First responses (3) said I was, but they were so faint... i thought it would be brighter at least a little today, but the line didn't apear, and the digital said no way.... So I think my body absorbed it because there might've been some thing wrong.... Maybe it implated too late, missed a chromosome, implanted in the wrong place, or just didn't have what it took to form... Well, we'll see.... Hopefully I won't need to go anouther round, but if I do.... I'm glad I have you ladies to wait with...

Dinks, Irish and Ash- Thank you kindly for your input. I really appreciate someone answering me back. i start to take it personal.... or maybe its the clomid making me sensative!! I realize multiples would be hard work but having 4 kids total is not really that many--for my family. i come from a huge family and that will come in handy when i need some help the first few months!! I picked up some wild Yams today at the Mexican market downtown. im affraid to try it with my 150mg clomid incase it really does work-- to well. i maybe want 2, not 4. i ran into this woman on sunday who took clomid for a few months before falling pregers. She said she had 4 babies and lost 2 within 8 wks but i met her 6 year olds and they are healthy and beautiful. im not sure how they would take care of the 2 that were lost.... i didnt have the heart to ask her. SHe said she still thinks of them and what they would have looked like. im so scared to have a MC..... i think i should track my ovulation a little better so i can start that progesterone cream. Thanks for listening:-) If you dont mind.... i will stick around a while to see how you ladies progress. im not much of a talker-- maybe ask a question here and there. thanks again!!