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Charlene, don't worry about other women's choices. You are stressing yourself out over something that you have no control over. What ever a woman wants to do is really her business as long as it doesn't affect you. Like mentioned several times, by several women, "there are good and bad" in each. It's like trying to convince someone to have her tubes tied after 2 kids when she wants 5 kids, because you have 5 and it's a lot of work. Hey, to each there own. If someone wants a c-sections, go for it. If they want to have it v____ally, great. Who the heck cares? If you want 10 kids, good for you. If you want just one, fine. There are risks in any kind of birth. I have a relative who's son was practically yanked out of the mother during a v____al delivery and the kid was not well. This was 20 some years ago. they sued the doctor and hospital and after so many years they child was put in a home. He died at 28. My mother-in-law, who works with special children, has a student who because lack of oxygen during a v____al birth, is not well. So, you see, there are risk in v____al births too. I had a csection, because the babies heart was slowing down. At that moment, all I cared was for the safety of this baby that I had carried for 9 months. In 3 weeks, I'll be having my second child thorugh c-section. All I can do is pray for both me and the baby. So,don't worry about other's choice of delivery. Just worry about yourself.

Yes, as a matter of fact, I WAS lied to and many times. Not one person said it would be as painful as it was, in fact they said the opposite, and i had a broken back before so I KNOW what pain is. I did discuss the elective c-section with my doctor and like most doctors, she rather glossed over quickly about the risk of bleeding, blood clots, hemorrhages and most importantly, SHE FORGOT TO MENTION HOW BAD AN INFECTION YOU CAN GET. I was desperately ill with mine and to Nicole, I doubt your friend with the infection had one bad enough to leave a permanent hole in her abdomen or she wouldn't still prefer THAT experience again. My wound nurse said the cleaning out and re-packing is very similar in pain to some torture techniques utilized by horrid people and I agree. Anyhow, I DO feel like the pain and the risks were totally minimized by people on these forums who are for elective c-sections and by my friends who had v____als and yes, understated by my own physician. I do not really care how others have their babies as long as they don't make the decision based on half-truths or birth stories alone. I believed all the posters on the other forum and now I know I shouldn't have. So that is the big deal I have with c-sections. I am sorry if that aggravates people so much, but if you get to state your opinions isn't it only fair I get to state mine?

Charlene, I don't mean to offend.I think you are missing the point of this post. I do understand what you are saying, and I agree with you. My section was awful, too. But I think the point the poster is trying to make is that it is human right (or wrong) to have the choice. It is completly up to you whether or not you have a v____al or a section. We all will learn from our experiences.

I think a lot of us do gloss over the pain involved in a c-section. I know I do, if I read a post where someone says they have to have a c-section. I don't want to scare someone who has no choice about how she's having her baby. I've never had a v____al birth, I can't compare the two. Even two c-sections aren't necessarily the same. I had a really painful recovery from my first, and recovered really quickly from the second. I wouldn't want to say to someone, "You'll be in agony for six weeks to three months," because they might not. I think anyone who has a tough v____al birth wishes they'd had a c-section, and anyone who had trouble recovering from a c-section wishes they'd had the v____al birth. Either way it would have hurt, and some people have more trouble healing than others...so they might have had trouble either way. I think the reason this is such a sensitive topic is that a lot of us who've had to have c-sections feel like we were cheated out of the experience of v____al birth, so it's hard for us to understand women who choose not to experience v____al birth.

Thank you to the last two posters. I shall bring it down a notch. When I get in a tizzy about someone wanting a section I lose sight of the fact that not all will invariably end with an infection as severe as mine. In my effort to say it IS a big deal I got too wrapped up in my individual experience. thanks for setting me back on track.

I GUESS THE POINT IS TO ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS BEFORE DECIDING HOW YOU WANT TO HAVE YOUR BABY.

Everyone keeps saying that it's human right to have a choice...but what about when the choice is taken from you? All of you ladies get to choose an elective c section...I had an emergency c-section with my first baby, and now am facing the possibility that I may never be *allowed* to have a v____al birth. Where's my choice? That's something *no one* mentioned to me. And, in thinking back to my labor, I didn't *have* to have a c-section - my doctor had me laboring on my back, and the baby got caught on my pelvic bone. NOT ONCE was it suggested that I roll to a side, or any other change of position. He didn't suggest I attempt to squat, or get on all 4s...all of which might have helped to shift my baby around my pelvic bone and allow me a v____al delivery. And now, I will have to fight to get a choice with my next child.

Yes Jamie, we all know you're very bitter about your experiance. The thing is, your doctor thought there was an emergancy situation. If you get pregnant again, research doctors, and find one who is willing to work with you on a vbac. And stop crying about "you were lied to" - DO SOME FRIGGEN RESEARCH!! You're on a thread about women who are choosing to have a c-section - and I know for myself, that making that choice ahead of time, I read everything I could so I could know what to expect. I know you didn't plan on having one, but dear, c-sections are always a possibility because you never know what could go wrong with a v____al that might require one, so you've got to be prepared for anything.

I would think that the fact that you feel so violated that your choice was taken away from you (even though your doctor thought it was an emergency) - Doesn't that make you see, how bad it feels to not be given a choice? Lay off the women who have done their research and made a decision. They would feel just as horrible if thhey were forced into a v____al the same as you were forced into a cesarean. I am sorry you had such a bad experiance - get a better doctor!

so let me get this straight jamie - you were forced into a birth you didn't want, so eveyrone else has to be too?

Why am I being jumped on? Did I say my c-section was horrible? No, I don't think I did. I said that I now no longer have that same choice that you're all so protective of! I never once said that you shouldn't have the choice, I said that I SHOULD! I say, lose the defensive posture, and re-read my post.

yes, we get it! you should have had a choice, and we're all terribly sorry you didn't get it! it's over and done with!

I'm sorry, I thought this was a discussion. My mistake.

It is is but you're not discussing, you just keep whining that you weren't given a choice - and I really am sorry about that, but it's done, you can't go back and change it!! So take your experiance, and let it enlighten you that women should be able to labor how they want...even if it's not what you wanted.

the ONLY good thing about c section is that it can save babie and mothers life, and you dont have to go through hours of labour. BUT i prefer hours of labour then weeks or recupering after c section. i had both, and i am hoping for natural birth with third

You just totally keep in character don't you? Each one of you rabid pro-c-sectioners are just the cruelest most militant women alive. It is ALL ABOUT YOU, ISN'T IT? Leave Jamie alone, she is a much preferred read to your vicious personal attacks and impatience with women WHO REALLY NEED SURGERY not just want to schedule one for their own muddy reasons. GO AHEAD JUMP ON ME, YOU DON'T BOTHER ME IN THE LEAST you pack of pitbulls. Re-read your posts and see how you treated her, you should be ashamed. I notice the pro-c/s people never jump on Marcie when she says her story over and over, and while I find that ok, she is wounded, you only allow her to try and work out her post-birth issues. You should be big about it and at least apologize for making your attacks so personal to Jamie.