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Hi Mike and all the others. My situation is somewhat similar. LMP was 01/17.First beta count was 69 on 02/18, second was 1000 on 03/03 and the third was 1918 on 03/07. Because this is my second pregnancy, I knew all about beta and it's doubling. Grew very concerned because my levels were not where they should be. Plus, starting pa__sing some very small clots (dark brown in colour). Checked myself into emerg where I was told after a v____al u/s that I measured 5 weeks with a sac visible but no baby. Was told that baby had not developed pa__sed week 5 and I should be miscarrying soon b/c according to my LMP I should be in week 8. Was scheduled for another ultrasound exactly one week later. That morning I started bleeding heavily and figured I was pa__sing this undeveloped fetus. Well, the sac was holding on but had not grown at all. It still measured 5 weeks. However, a yolk sac had now developed. So, my beta's are way too low, i'm bleeding heavily with lots of cramping, but the sac is developing. The doctors tell me it's an abnormal pregnancy and I will miscarry but can't explain why the sac continues to develop. I have another u/s scheduled in one week. My husband and I had come to grips with miscarriage but now I'm confused. Is there a glimmer of hope or am I just kidding myself? Any advise???

Pat, that is so frustrating. You want to hope for the best but also try to prepare yourself for the worst. I am the same way the sac is growing, my levels aren't rising like they should be, I am waiting to hear my latest result on Monday, he wants to see if they are going up still or falling. I too am bleeding and cramping, but don't want to get my hopes up either to be set up for disapointment again. Just remember everything happens for a reason, and we are not in control. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. Hey Mike how is your wife doing, and PP how are you.

You're right Kristina, everything happens for a reason. Like most, I just want it over with one way or the other. Waiting and wondering is taking it's toll on me!! My next scan is tomorrow morning. Hoping for some closure. Will check in to tomorrow night.

Pat and Kristina, It sounds like I am in the same boat with you both. My dates are almost identical to Pat's and I have had 2 v____al ultrasounds. I have an empty gestational sac which grew since the last ultrasound 1 week prior. My HCG levels are rising (currently 12,000 range). I had spotting and bleeding on and off for two weeks (pink, dark red, clumpy, clotty). My OBGYN has said it is NG. I cried for about an hour and realized there is nothing I could do but to wait for my next ultrasound. Do you trust your doctors judgement or has anyone felt like getting a second opinion? I think my dates might be off by 3 weeks. But the doctor disagrees and thinks I'm in denial. They are ready to do a D&C, but I want to wait it out. Any advice, it's tearing me apart!

Bridgett, I would give it a little while and see if it happens on it's own. I have heard stories where people were scheduled for d&c and on the scan right before the procedure they saw the baby. If you think your dates might be off then wait just a little while to see if anything starts to happen. Figure out with what you think your dated are to about 7 to 8 weeks. At this point you should see something. I know how you feel I cried for about a day, my husband and I cried ourselves to sleep, but really what are you going to do about it. So hopefully things will turn out good for you. I will keep you in my thoughts.

Please don't rush into a D&C. With this pregnancy was offerd one twice. I really can't tell you but if you can remam healthy and give the baby another week or 2 it could be all the difference. Mine grew leaps and bounds one week.

It was good to read your posts-I had my first (6wks) u/s Monday and saw a geational sac and yolk sac consistent with a 5.5wk pregnancy. My HCG levels at 4wks were doubling normally. My HCG level on Monday was 16,000-The docs said it should be over 20,000-But Maria gave me some insight that after a certain point the levels double every 72-96 hours so I would be normal. I have an u/s scheduled for next Wed, but I already scheduled the D&E for 2 hours after my u/s-I can always cancel, but I didn't want to have to wait to get an appt. like last time-that was misery. You guys have given me a glimmer of hope when before I had none.

Well I had my third u/s today and the technician saw absolutely nothing! I obviously miscarried over the weekend. I figured as much since my bleeding was quite a lot on Saturday. My beta count dropped from 5000 (Friday) to 551(Today). I'm actually doing quite well. Cried after my 1st u/s so I guess now I'm just relieved it's over and that my body has taken care of it naturally. I'm going in for blood tests every 3 days from now until my beta count reaches 0. Bridgett--I agree with Kristina and PP--I would definitely wait it out. If the spotting is nothing (which is common), then you should see something new with each u/s. If however, the spotting means you are miscarrying, then why do a D&C. Obviously your body is trying to pa__s it on its own. I have to say, that not once did a doctor tell me to do a D&C. Every one told me to wait and pa__s it natually. Less chance of infection and scarring. Do a D&C as a last resort. Good luck to all of you. Maybe next time we will all have a more positive experience and we'll meet up again in a different forum--maybe the one when we complain about morning sickness, heartburn or our inability to sleep because of our huge bellies-- I'd like to thank all of you for your stories and support. It really helped me get though this difficult time. I'll be checking in on you guys once in a while. Keep posting your news!! Goodbye and good luck!!

Mike I am in pretty much the same situation as you and your wife. There haven't been any posts from you in a few weeks and I'm hoping that is a sign of good things. My HCG levels are rising only 200 to 400 in a 48 hour period. My baby is growing and has a heartbeat. I've gotten conflicting info from 3 different docs....my next ultrasound is Thursday so I'll post again and let everyone know. Anyone going through the same thing can email me at Jenfer1106@aol.com

Hey, I am new here and was reading all of your posts, and let me tell you I can sympothize with alot of you! I am currently 5 weeks 1 day and have moderate bleeding for three days and I am now spotting. I have not really cramped a whole lot, more like a nagging pain! Last tuesday my HCG level was a low 37 and two days later only 44. Very discouraging, but still hopeful. Is there anyone else who has such a low Hcg level that did not double and had a good pregnancy?

My wife Beverly is 7 weeks LMP. She is pregnant, but things are not looking good. We are told that the sac is too small and her HCG numbers are not increasing appropriately. At 4 weeks (LMP) it was 8. At 6 weeks it was 240, then 760 three days later. Four days after that it was 1650. The latest level is 2900 (4 days later). She has been spotting/bleeding for the last 3 weeks. The sac is 8mm, but the doc says the embryo (no heartbeat visible yet) should be that size at 7 weeks LMP. The doc said she is likely to m/c. We have been trying to get pregnant for 3 years and went through a tubal pregnancy in October of last year. We are not sure what to do next. We have another HCG test scheduled for Monday. They want to do a D&C if something drastic has not happened. Should we hold any hope? Best of luck to you all.

Ian, I have not been in the same exact situation, but I am dealing with the low numbers and bleeding. I believe there is always hope! Many women have proved there docs wrong & from what I read there's alot a women with low numbers and bleeding that carry on to have a healthy baby. The "Wait and See" game is extremely hard and pressing. Hang in there and your both in my prayers.

It is my understanding that your HCG level quits doubling after reaching 1200. It then slows way down, but it still increases. My HCG was low in the beginning, but that heartbeat should indicate that something is going right. Keep in mind that sperm can live for 72 hours or something like that, so fertilization could have occurred 3 days later than you thought. HCG levels are unreliable, and I would act as though you're going to have a baby! Let 12 weeks hit before getting too excited. Most miscarriages happen before 12 weeks. Good luck. You're in my prayers.

Mike Do you have any news for us?

OMG! This is the post I have been looking for! I just found this site tonight, and I have been replying all over here. I too have a doctor that has caused me so much stress with what is right and wrong and telling me that I am going to miscarry ect. She never even told me most of my hcg levels ect. All she said was that they weren't doubling. At one point they did a little more than double, but that was it. She had only told us like three times out of the 6 blood tests that I had what the numbers were. And right from that worring about the hcg levels she jumped to how she was pretty sure and worried that this was an ectopic pregnancy and that I'd have to take the Methotrexate to abort the baby! All of this happening starting three days after I found out I was finally pregnant after over a year of trying again. She had gone as far as to set up the day for my u/s and injection right afterwards last Friday. I was a complete basketcase for two weeks! Screaming, crying ect.. The day of the u/s there was the baby in my uterus and NOT in my tubes or anywhere it didn't belong! What a relief that was! But all of that worring for what??? Now, when I went in for that ultrasound last Friday, there was a heartbeat, but only of 97 bpm. So, thus to say she was on the phone to me saying how this isn't good ect....all over again! Today I went in for yet another u/s and there was the heartbeat still going and the bpm are up to 103 in 5 days. I heard that it is suppose to jump like 10 bpm every 3 days. Anyone know if that is right? So, as of right now I haven't spoken to my doctor about this u/s, but I am sure she will call tomorrow with some more negative news on how I will probably still miscarry. I had only one eraser sized spot of blood at the very beging of my pregnancy, and thankfully it never went further. I do have mild cramping, and alot of back pain, but nothing more. I am so thankful I have found this site. I don't feel as alone anymore. I wish this wasn't so hard on all of us...and I am sorry that so many of us are hurting and going through this pain. I myself don't know what to believe anymore, or don't know what to do.... I like all of us just want this baby to be healthy, and to stop feeling so crazy!

Kim too- I am so sorry you are going through this with your doctor, some are so wonderful. How far along are you? And how far along were you when you had your ultrasounds?