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Morning all! I've got a really busy day ahead (Yuck!!) so thought I'd get my post in now. How's everyone today? Good I hope! I'm still feeling great about yesterday despite having a nauseous night and feeling exhausted as a result!! Not looking forward to all the work I have to do today and hoping I'll be able to get a break at some point. Anyway, that's all my news. Sann - sorry to hear the headaches are still at you. Make sure you're keeping yourself hydrated, get out into the fresh air for at least an hour a day and keep rested. Some of that might help! Re. my decision to do the NT - I know EXACTLY what you mean about the horrible likelihood of a false positive and the wait for amnio results after that would be horrendous (especially as I'm such a worrier!! LOL!!). However, on the other hand there's also a possibility that I could get really GOOD odds (I'm thinking positively for once - LOL!!) and then we'd probably decide against the amnio altogether. Unfortunately I have to pay (extortionate amounts!! LOL!!) for the NT whereas the amnio is free but I think it's worth it if it means I don't have to have the more intrusive testing. Re. my bean moving - I'm a bit like you in that I think I may have seen an arm move about but then the Ob/Gyn was wiggling the "wand" about so much at that point that it may have just been my imagination. Still I'm going to hold on to the fact that it was a wave!!! Anyway, must go as I'm late already - tee hee hee - have a great day all and I'll TTYL!!

Good Morn ALL, Sann I'm not temping, I wish a had from the start, so I'd know a bit more about what's going on, but at least I found the $tree store for cheap HPTs! As for the NT test, my sister got one of those High risk #s & it caused her unbelievable grief. If you are going to do an amnio, I would def. not cause extra anxiety w/ that NT scan, But if like Hopeful, you're trying to avoid the amnio, than it could make you more at ease. I can't keep track of where everyone lives, but in the US, I was able to pay like an extra $100.00 to get my amnio results back within like 3 days. I'm trying to remember the name of it. I believe there was a lab in Las Vegas that did it. I ended up having to get it done last time cause they found "echogenic focus" spots on my DS heart during an u/s which is a marker for Downs. (my sisters ds too) Anyhow just like the NT scan there are a lot of false positives. Unfortunately the amnio is the only definite test. regardless of what our decision would have been if it came back positive, I felt such a relief just knowing & not causing my body the extra stress for the remainder of the pg. I also remember meeting w/ a genetics counselor who explained to me the odds of actual danger for an amnio & he certainly eased my mind. So if any of you preggers are worried, I'm sure someone can go over the #'s w/ you to ease you. I'll try to find out the name of that quick result. Have a good day.

Good morning ladies, I am glad everybody is doing will. My updates I had my first prenatal, they took lots of blood for testing, so far I did not get any of the results back. Speaking about the NT testing, I was planning to come today and ask you ladies about this thing, my doctor asked me to do something called IPS, at the beginning I thought this is a normal testing procedure, it turned to be its for genetics testing, and it has very high false positive results. So I am thinking to decline this test, I don’t want to end up worried for the rest of pregnancy. And I have no plans to do the amino thing, so why bother doing this one as well. So I am still debating this issue. I am so confused and worried too. What do you think ladies? I am going to call me doctor and ask him about it, I will keep you posted. TTYL

Col..only have a minute..rushinhg kids off to school..but my sil did ips in canada, got a false positive at age 33, then was tormented and did amnio...perfect baby. LOTS of stress and emotional upheaval. If I get pregnant I will ,NOT be doing them. decide carefully, ttyl XOXO

Lovemy3, thank you so much for your words, i am not going to do it. i was thinking about it, and i was saying , if they tell me that my baby has any of those things, am i going to terminate? NO, so why bother doing that. thank you so much again, when i read your post i was crying scared to death. i cant beleive what they ar eputing us through. TTYL

hi all... we haven't decided completely for or against the amnio, but I am worried about the possibility of mc especially since it took so long to conceive. We're still taking it one day at a time though, and have a few weeks until we'd have to decide about the NT. I'll probably see what my ob suggests. Nothing new to report. Just feeling nauseous and tired most of the time, especially in the evenings. I think I 'm going to mostly lay around today - I only have to work for an hour or so. Plus it's drizzling outside - perfect day to lie on the sofa. Glad everyone is ok... hope everyone has a good weekend.

Helloo All, And Happy Thanksgiving to all fellow Canadians celebrating this weekend. Not much is new here, CD13 and haven't bd'd yet. Going to tomorrow a.m for sure. I don't usually o till CD18 and I think we have been over bd IN THE PAST MONTHS. sO ITS GOING TO BE cd14, 16,18 AND 20. aLTHOUGH THIS A.M although this a.m I noti=ced some cm and thought, maybe we should have this a.m. I just bought my opks and the pack is 5 , so if i start tomorrow I will get thru till cd 19 with them. anyhow, thats it for me. KD...what cd are you on now? how is everyone else doing with there little babies. What are everyones due dates? Is anyone planning on finding out the gender before birth? tty;XOXO

Well Lovemy, it's up to you this month. I'm out. Af reared her ugly head this am. I'm not sad right now, I'm just p__sed. Happy Thanksgiving to all in Canada. I'll be back once again hopefully with less anger & more optimism! Hope all is well.

Thats c___ppy KD..sorry to hear that. Did it come early this month..I thought you were due next week for some reason. Gosh, you have to wonder don't you. I know I am. We are oncd14 in the a.m. I'm tempted to wait to bd right uptil we see the surge line. Anyhow, hope all is well with you pregnant mommys to be. Who has dr appts this week and what are they for? ttyl XOXO and baby dust and belly rubs!

Hello all! KD - I'm so sorry about your AF arriving. As lovemy3 asked - did it come early this month? What a bummer! I hope you can do as in previous months and regain your positive att_tude quickly so that we hear from you soon! I'm really sad for you but I'm SURE it's not over yet so keep trying!! lovemy3 - it's up to you this month. We're all rooting for you!!!!!!!! Re. my due date - looks like April 29th is pretty fixed now as it's been written down in my official information!! My plan is not to find out the gender before birth but of course with the amount of experience I'm having with ultrasounds it may be that I'll see it myself. LOL!! Who knows? We'd really rather have a surprise though so I hope we don't know until the day itself. Other than that - all is well with me. I'm still nervous about the whole NT vs. amnio vs. nothing at all "thing" but I'm still hoping that the NT will give me some positive news and then I can relax. If it doesn't I'm going to try very hard to keep it all in perspective and remember that it could be a false positive and only concern myself with future plans if the amnio results come back with something to worry about. I hope I can be as good as my word. If nothing else, the NT scan will give me a clearer picture of the bean inside me so that's got to be worth it hasn't it! LOL! Col and Val - I can totally understand both your viewpoints in this dilemma but I think I'm with Val on the worry of miscarriage. Even if that likelihood is small I still want to try every other avenue first before going for the amnio. Anyway, what is for SURE is that everyone has a personal opinion on this subject which is only right and I just hope we can all support each other through these difficult decisions whatever we choose. So anyway, my day on Friday was as predicted - really busy - and I felt absolutely EXHAUSTED by the end of it!!!!! I was on my feet running about for about 10 hours and only managed to get a small break in between. Once it got to the last 4 hours I was beside myself with tiredness and felt like my back wasn't going to hold me up anymore!! I won't be doing that again in a hurry I can tell you LOL!! All is well though and I had a pretty restful day yesterday to make up for it!! Sann - how are you today - long time no hear?

Go Morning. I did get AF a bit early this month. Sometimes I spot a couple of days early, but this was a full flow 5 days early. But it stopped sometime yest. & now it's starting to slowly start up again. Who knows. It keeps changing. I really am starting to think that I am going through premenopause. That would explain all of the changes; the headaches, tiredness, being really hot.... you know all the signs of pregnancy that have been tricky me the past 5 months. If next month doesn't work I think I am still going to get an appt w/ the Dr. not to start the whole Clomid thing, but just to really check me over & ease my mind. Well I'm off to drink a lot of coffee, dye my hair & lift heavy objects! Sorry this post is all about me right now. Just wallowing in self pity & still some residual anger. lol TTYL

KD, sorry to hear AF arrived. I know what a bummer that can be. Every month I asked myself, "How much longer can I put myself through this?" Have you had your FSH tested yet? Any bloodwork? You know what helped me some was getting b12 shots from my OB/gyn a couple months in a row. I was tired etc...too. LM3---get busy on the nookie once you see that surge!!!! You asked who has appointments this week? I have an U/S on Thursday afternoon to hear the heartbeats and to check to see if my ovaries have shrunk back down to normal yet. I am so sick of this bedrest thing and would love to go back to work, but don't think I can until the end of the first trimester when I stop taking the Prometrium. The dose I have to take in the morning just plows me and by noon I am usually back asleep. I have a whole routine going right now that revolves around sleeping and not puking! I hate it and can't wait until I feel better and start growing more.Hopeful, I officially got my due date the other day too. It is may 25, but he said he will keep looking at my scans to see if that is the right track. I have been going through the whole amnio/NT thing in my head and d__n, I still don't know what the right thing to do is. I think I will also just do the NT and then if there is concern, do the amnio if absolutely necessary. I don't know. Val, how are you feeling? Sann, how's the stuffy nose?

KD, I'm sorry about af showing up - I know how disapointing that is. Sending you hopeful thoughts for this next month. LM3 good luck with the bd-ing... hope you are having a fun weekend! ;-) HOPEFUL, what did you you on your busy day? Do you have a full time job? COL and SANN, how are you doing? TRACY, sorry the m/s is still bad and that you're still on bedrest. I haven't noticed being tired after taking the progesterone, but now that I think about it, I do get tired in the late afternoons after taking my second one of the day, and I fall asleep really quickly after taking my evening one. M/s isn't too bad today yet - makes me worry a bit, but it's probably just early. It seems to get worse later in the day. Yesterday I had more protein so maybe that's helping? My u/s is Monday at 11am, so please, everyone, think good thoughts for me! Cheers...

Val my m/s gets worse later in the day as well and protein really does help. Carbs seem to make it worse or not help at all. Good luck tomorrow with your U/S. I'll be here rooting for you and baby! Post when you can to let us know what you saw.

Good Morning All, A New Day... Thx for the kind words as always. Hopeful, I'm happy to hear you're gonna try to keep the gender a surprise. (but,I totally understand those who want to be prepared!) w/ my DS, hubby & I had so much fun, not finding out gender. It was difficult, especailly since I had to have so many u/s (to check for that echogenic focus I mentioned early & for size) to keep reminding the Dr's. & techs not to tell. I even had some techs slip each way to mess around w/ us. I loved having people guess & hearing about all of the old wives tales about what I was craving meant boy/girl. I also agree w/ your words on supporting each other on personal opinions. Tracy, I haven't had any testing yet. Next mo will me the 6 mo marker when I can go for testing. It sounds like you're having it really rough. I hope hearing the heartbeat on Thurs. will make you feel better, at least the adrenaline of hearing it might stop the nausea & certainly will help w/ the exhaustion for a little while. Val, can't wait to hear about your u/s. Hi Lovemy, wishing you happy bding. Have a healthy day to all.

This is weird and think missed opportunitty.......I always o between 18-20, so bought my opks, and last night was 14 and this a.m is 15. So was going to test day 15,16,17,18,19,20. Our packs here only have 5 days. So last night after thanksgiving celebrations, we went to bed, tired, and dh wants to bd, so we do. Right after, I get this horrible leg cramp and spend 1/2 hr right after, immediately right after, walking around, jumping up and down to get rid of my cramp. The whole time I'm thinking, don't worry about the sperm coming out because it isn't the "night" anyhow. I get up this a..m to do my first day15 opk and its TOTally a surge, dark as anything. So, I'm stressing cuz I never lied flat or elevated, I JUMPED UP AND DOWN for a half hour to get rid of my leg cramp. Gosh!!! So, now my kiids are up, we can't do it again till tonight or tommorw a.m. My dark line is now, is tonight to late???? The only positive thing is that we hadn't bd in almost 3 weeks since last time, so dh says it was a good one.lol. is it to late now do you think? Gosh, if this had been last night montjh, we started bding to early at cd10 and didn't o till 20, now this month o on cd14 and didn't start till now, too late. THIS IS SO CRAZY! Anyhow, you girls are lucky you are already pregnant now, this is going to drive KD and I crazy-lol. Glad to hear everyone is well, Glad to hear hopeful you are not finding out gender. With my kids I did and with my last ds, they made a horrible mistake. Right up until the very end they told me he was a she. We had decorated ands everything, I was very upset and this time around if I get pregnant, I will definately not find out as last time I was shocked. This is our 6th month our trying and I guess i could go in and get checked as well. my problem with that, is that they will automatically say weight related I think. Lets hope this is the month and that won't be an issue. Hope you all have a great day XOXO