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Boodahbaby I think it is very rude that you say circ_mcision is a "barbaric practice/ritual". Maybe these pregnancy hormones have me feeling sensitive today but you could have simply said your against circ_mcision and left it at that. I think I'm finally started to understand what women on this forum mean when they explain the difference between stating an opinion and being a jerk. (Better late than never, hehe) I don't know millions of women BUT I haven't met ONE who says an un-cut p___s is attractive and loves it. I'm sure there are men that keep their extra fleshy p___s' super clean but I'm sure that their are just as many that don't and have problems with it. The percentage of men getting it done as adults is going up as well. I'm sure its way more expensive and hurts a lot worse then.
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I will admit I took offense to that as well. haha I for one think that no matter what, the p___s is a scary and nasty looking thing. haha Seriously if anyone has ever seen a beautiful p___s that is a first. haha JMO but they look even worse uncirc_msized. They are just not an attractive organ no matter how you look at it. haha It looks like it could spit in your eye or whack you with one of his ball buddies below. haha
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I have to admit Jenn, my dh has a pretty beautiful male organ HEHE, its breathtaking, I wish you could see because I'm sure you would agree. J/k. It is hard to explain, I'm sure it would be TMI anyway ;) AND you are right about them spitting in your eye! Becareful! (YOUR DUE DATE IS TOMORROW! Yay!)
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hi sashasmama. i say this thread and just had to post my experiences. I have a 12 year old son who is circ_mcised and it was a horrible experience. We had tons of problems with the healing process and it was not anything i would do again. I know that in my area of California that they do not perform the circ_mcisions at the hospitals anymore. They have you make an appointment with a pediatrician. We had to do this when my 12 year old was born. I was not allowed to be in the room when they did this procedure and I remember I could hear him crying so loudly that it made me sad and cry myself. I couldn't do anything to comfort my newborn baby and it just broke my heart. I then vowed never to do that again until I did research and talked with other parents who chose not to circ_mcise. When I got pregnant with my 3 year old son I did so much research on circ_mcision and found that there is lots of conflicting issues on to do or not to do. We decided not to have him circ_mcised and it was the best decision we made. We have had not one problem with uti's or cleanliness. It is not anymore difficult to keep it clean whether circ_mcised or not. I am now pregnant with baby boy number 3 and we will definitely not have him circ_mcised. Many boys nowadays are not circ_mcised. I also have to agree with bubbasmom that the decision not to circ_mcise is definitely much more accepted and common. The decision is completely up to you. Just thought I would give you my opinion and story on the subject. Good Luck.
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We didn`t get my son circ_msized. I left it totally up to my df to decide whether we would or not, and he ended deciding not to. My df IS circ_msized, but reasoned that he didn`t see the need to circ_msize our son. The fact that a boy will get more s_xual enjoyment if he is circ_msized is baloney! its only for appearance sake, and then debatable whether its more hygenic. If you teach your son the correct way to clean his p___s then there shouldn`t be any difference. Goodness gracious! what happened to all those men in the past when circ_msizing was solely a Jewish practice! they survived...
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i am having a boy in may, and we are definitely not circ_mcizing. i dont think that there is anything wrong with the way our babies are born, and to me, surgery (however minor) right after birth is not a reasonable risk.
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We are not circ_msizing our little boy when hes born (any day now!). I live in Australia where in the 70's it used to be pretty about 75% of newborn boys ,to now where only about 15% get it done. In our societies where we bathe daily and cleanse well, there is no hygiene factor to consider, and well, even tho his father will be looking different....i think its more important for him to look like his peers in the locker rooms etc in his teens when hes at his most self-conscious, rather than whether he looks like his dad, who he really wont be showering with except when hes a small tot. Its not considered normal practise anymore over here and to be honest, i dont think aesthetics should come into it...i wouldn't consider plastic surgery to perfect any other part of my babys body that developed the way nature meant it to but society deems ugly. Anyway...it took me a while to come to that conclusion and it is a very tough and confusing decision...so good luck and there is no WRONG answer :) My brother also just had his first baby boy and is letting his boy grow up as nature intended too (even tho he, my father, and all our male relatives had it done).
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i must be against the majority in here because i don't see a good reason to do inflict that on a little baby. it sounds like a new trend when i read these posts though! ive always personally thought it was a cruel thing to do, we wouldn't mess with a little girl's genitals (although i believe some extreme religions do) so why mess with a little boys. thats how i see it anyway. its not necessary in my view.
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DDT~ It is said that s_xual enjoyment is increased by NOT having it done. I have heard that 100x that not having a circ_mcision increases s_xual pleasure. I dont see how they came about that study haha Anyways I just wanted to clarify that. :)
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I'm not apologizing for the BARBARIC comment, but I will say this. IT IS AN OPINION! Apparently it is your opinion to say that I'm a JERK! Like someone else posted... it's a plastic surgery procedure that is unnecessary. I understand that we as parents want our children to have a life without teasing and emotional pain, but inflicting physical pain on them when they are born to omit the emotional pain they might face later??? I just dont get it! Please watch a video of this procedure! I urge any of you to and I will say this... if that doesn't make you think about your decision (not change your mind, just make you consider the options) then maybe its not a BARBARIC practice/ritual in your eyes, but holy c___p... that looks like it really hurts! They are taking a part of their body that nature intended for them to have. Would we all succ_mb to removing the c___toris if they told us we would be cleaner and have less UTI's as a result! I know I would be mad at my parents if they did that as a baby to me... I thoroughly enjoy mine! Thanks... signed, The Jerk!
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I had a feeling that this thread was going to turn I wanted to mention it earlier but hoped it wouldnt. It seems that threads that have anything to do with Abortion, circ_mcision, and whether or not a gla__s of red wine is a good idea end up in a b___h fest. haha GREAT. AND also in the US we like to practice hygiene as well. Just thought I would add that. Anyways to bad this thread had to go down with arguing and telling people that their personal beliefs are not good enough. If you wanna have it done GET IT DONE. If you dont well HEY that is great too! It is a parents personal decision. Sometimes it has more to do with religion or traditons. Sometimes it has more to do with hygiene. All reasons to do it and not to are good ones. I really wish we could be respectful of others personal wishes and beliefs.
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oh c___p, here we go again. I too had a feeling this would turn ugly. I personally can see both sides of the issue..but I don't feel that it is barbaric or that it in any way compares to removing a girls c___toris...at all. First of all, in the research I've done, there is no real proof that it in anyway diminishes s_xual pleasure. How on earth would you study that since it's all pretty subjective anyways. Second, it IS each persons personal decision and I don't think that either way is bad. I take offense to being told I'm barbaric or cruel by doing it...it's not like I called anyone cruel or barbaric for possibly subjecting their son to more UTI's etc....I think it was a good post - meaning, it's good to discuss the issues on both sides so someone can make an informed decision but NOT to make people feel bad for deciding to be for or against it. I do agree that it is becoming more the norm to NOT have it done. By the time our kids are teens the average of circ_mcised/uncirc_mcised will be about 50/50 so looking different will not be much of an issue. Anyways, I'm all for opinions here, but it IS nice if we can be respectful of other people's viewpoints as none of us are God and get to decide who's right or wrong. It's a place to share our thoughts on issues and help people make informed decisions, not feel bad about what they do. Okey-Dokey...I've said my bit now lets keep talking. :)
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Ok, sorry, I had to jump in here. Shoppingfortwo, you stated "BUT I haven't met ONE who says an un-cut p___s is attractive and loves it." Well now you have. I agree with you that no, an uncirc_msized p___s is not attractive but no matter whether a p___s is circ_msized or not it looks the same when the man is aroused. It is only when he is peeing that it wears its hoody. How do I know this? Because my husband isn't circ_msized and none of our future sons will ever be circ_msized. I don't think it was rude or offensive for boodahbaby to call circ_mcision barbaric . . . maybe to her it is. Maybe she sees it as a form of infant torture. Who are any of us to judge what another's opinion is? I must admit, there is a fine line between rubbing it in someone's face as opposed to just stating it, but no one here is anyone to bash someone else's opinion. Especially on a topic as controversial as this. MY opinion on the situation is God put that skin there for a reason and the only reason to remove it is if there is something wrong with it to begin with. You don't randomly remove a child's tonsils unless they have tonsilitis and you don't automatically remove their appendix if they don't have appendicitis so why remove the skin on one of the most sensitive parts of your baby's body? And cleanliness is not a reason. My husband is 32 years old and has had not one UTI or any kind of infection in his life regarding his genitals. A real man knows how to clean his parts and keep them clean and therefore could pa__s it onto his sons and so forth. :)
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Well...me and my b/f are having a boy and we are getting him circ_msized. I LOVE my b/f male organ and he isnt cut. However we are getting our son circ_msized b/c it can cause medical problems...(although very rare). I feel that everyone should just do what they think is best for them. and not judge someone elses decision. GL
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Hi. I didn't know this was such a heated topic, here in the UK it isn't a super common thing to do except in medical circ_mstances such as constant infection however in the US it's something that is very common. I know that over here ive never come across one that is however in the US it's something that alot of men or boys can be very shy about if they don't have it done. Or atleast thats what i heard i don't know if it's true. Anyway i wouldn't get it done here obviously unless neccesary but if i lived in a country where its more common i think id consider it and speak to people i know.
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