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I just wanted to tell both of you hi and that I am thinking about both of you. Nothing really going on with me. I am on cd19/5dpo and my gyn appointment that was scheduled for yesterday and I went just to find out that the dr went on vacation and no one called me to let me know so I was p__sed off because I wasted gas and I have been waiting on the for 3 months now. I have to go next Tuesday which will be okay I will be 12dpo and I am going to take a hpt in the morning and maybe even ask the dr to take one as well. I will keep you all updated. Naomi please rub your belly for me and I can't wait for you to hear the baby heartbeat. Sunshine I am keeping my fingers cross and sending baby dust your way. Take care and I will talk to you both soon. Krissy68

Hi Krissy (and Mandy if you're still here!), I'm doing fine, waiting impatiently for my 7 week scan tomorrow. I just want to hear a healthy heartbeat and I'll breath a little easier - I'm sick with nerves right now :-/ I got my 6 weeks hcg results back yesterday and they were great (42,491) so feeling a bit better about that. I'm a little anaemic but aside from that, everything is going fine. I'm not getting much nausea thank goodness, just very tired. How are things with you girls? Krissy did you have your consultation yet? Hope your doctor came up with a get pregnant quick plan! Mandy, any word on the start date for IVF? Thinking of you guys. I'll let you know how it goes tomorrow xx

Naomi98 - I am glad you are doing okay. I can't wait for you to have your scan and give us an update. I will be praying for you that all is well. Wow them are some great numbers. Well let me tell you I did go to my gyn appointment which was a waste of my time. I was down, sad and depress because it is like nothing can be done for me. She look at my chart for the last 3 months to tell me that my periods are normal duh I already know that and then she said I should start using opk test strips and I told her I already do that and then she wanted to know what the results were I told her I normally start testing on either cd 10 or 11 and it is negative then positive and she said that is good that means I am ovulating. She said if it was always positive then I would have pcos then she look at my blood work and said everything is okay with that and that I am not menopausal so I guess that is the only good news I got out of the appointment. She want me to keep taking the 1mg folic acid and she want me to come back in 3 months. I am just going to have to try and find me a part time job so I can get the procedure done (hysterocopy)from the RE which you know is going to cost me 1175.00 because in my hearts of heart I feel that once I have that done I will get pg. I know I have built up scar tissue and my left tube is blocked. I am going to go to the healthfood store and see what they have there and try that this cycle along with the folic acid and prenatal and use the opk. I will keep you poster. Rub your belly for me. Krissy

Hey girls! Still here, checking in every so often but not every day. How did your scan go Naomi? Did you see the little heartbeat? Krissy sorry to hear about your gyno appt. It sucks when you wait all that time to hear something encouraging only to find out you have to wait some more. Wow, a hysteroscopy is expensive! I've had a hysteroscopic myomectomy a couple times already b/c of my fibroid but since I live in Canada it's covered. So basicly we are just waiting on IVF now. Dh wants to do it in October to give us a few months to clear our credit cards. (Only to load it back up again with $6000 worth of ivf meds and lab fees!) I want to just do it now though. I found out my little cousin who got married a year after me is now pregnant. She started trying a couple months ago. Obviously I'm happy for her but on the other hand I'm bummed about it. I remember saying to myself 'as long as I get pregnant before her I'll be okay' and here we are. My aunt (her mom) and her were talking to my mom and were all like should we tell her, we feel so bad telling her. I'm like that's nice to be considerate but just be normal or you're making it worse for me. So next time I see her I have to be all happy and excited for her. Uggghh I hate that! So I just want to do the ivf already you know? I feel like I'm falling behind and everyone is surpa__sing me in life in general. Anywho, that's where I'm at. Af came yesterday so we'll be giving it another go this month. Funny thing is I'm not even surprised anymore even though we did time bding. I feel like my uterus is programmed to bleed every month no matter what. There could be a little fertilized egg floating around in there but it doesnt' matter b/c my uterus just won't allow it. It'll bleed no matter whats going on in there. Did you ever think that getting pregnant is just a huge miracle that is next to impossible to happen? I feel like every pregnant woman I see at work is literally a walking miracle. Like the impossible has happened. They have been touched by the hand of God. Anyways, thanks for letting me rant. I think this is the only place I can do it! My dh always says to be happy about everyone else who gets pregant and one day it'll happen for us so don't worry about it. Impossible. I'm a girl and I obsess. Well, I have to get to bed. Talk to you later! .......Mandi

Krissy hun, that sounds like a sucky appointment. There is nothing worse than being brushed off on these issues. Of course its great news that you ovulate and your blood work is fine but that doesn't answer your question...why the hell isn't it happening? However, it is fantastic news that you are not menopausal. I hope it doesn't take long to raise those funds and have your procedure. I have come to firmly believe it a woman's instinct when it comes to our bodies and I'm sure yours is right. Mandi..ARGGHHH...godd__n i know how it feels to see the world getting pregnant around you. I had one of those moments when my younger cousin got pregnant. And by the way, no matter what your dh says, you are totally ent_tled to feel angry and disappointed and hurt when someone you know gets pregnant (even me). you are human for g-d's sake. I don't know what to tell you only I've been there month after month. Clomid really is my miracle drug..I'm sure that without it I never would have gotten pregnant. Maybe there's a miracle treatment out there for you too...IVF?? And speaking of miracles, I totally agree that every pregnancy that makes it past all the many many seemingly impossible hurdles of the first few weeks is a true miracle. That word is not an overstatement no matter how much it gets used. Our babies will be so much more precious to us than to those who had it easy...I truly believe that. I had my own little miracle on Thursday..we saw the heart beat!!! The bean is measuring 6w and 4 days so a little bit small (I was 7wks and 1 day at the u/s). You could have probably heard the sigh of relief from there! Mandi girl I wish it had been you doing the u/s. The doctor is the WORST u/s technician I ever had. She couldn't capture the heartbeat properly so we didn't get the heart rate and she only measured the embryo, not the sac. It is so frustrating. I'm one of those people that relaxes more when I have more information so I'm cross about that. But still, I'm so happy that everything is going well...i really feel like this might be the sticky one we've been waiting for :-)take care girls and talk soon. xx

sunshine7610 - How are you doing today? It's okay I should have know it was too good to be true and why even give myself that pep talk that is is going to tell me something that I really wanted to hear about. My insurance don't have fertility coverage. I had to get a referal from my family doctor to go and see the fertility doctor and my copay was $80. I guess why I am so upset with my doctor because I know I have scar tissue that have built up over the years and I have fibroids and I always get cyst and my tube is blocked so why can't she just go in and clean me all out that way my insurance will pay for it and my co pay would only be $100. I have a new goal and that is for me to have this operation/procedure done before the end of the year. I will just have the fertility doctor do it since it should be his speacility and then try on my own while I am trying to get the money together for IUI so I am going to be looking for the medicine for that. I totally understand about putting up fronts about being happy for people who tell you they are pg and they weren't even trying and it really p__s me off because you have been doing everything correct and you still can't have a baby. You already know you can vent to us anytime you need to that is what friends are for I am sending you a great big hug. Naomi98 - How are you doing and feeling? Rub your belly for me. I am so happy that you got to see the heartbeat. You are so right it was a very sucky appointment I was real upset and crying and everyting but I am okay now I just have to get focus and get this money by any means necessary. I am going to have this surgery done before the end of year. By the way do you have any leftover clomid? Krissy

Hey girls...Naomi I'm glad you saw the heart beat! That's great news and must have been so exciting for you. It's like the first hurdle is done - that being the little bean is inside your uterus growing away in there. You know it's funny some people get pregnant and I hate them and there are others who get pregnant and I'm absolutely thrilled for them. Like I just found out today my sister-in-law who lives in Ireland just found out she's pregnant. She's a bit older and they did ivf and she's wanted a baby for years with no success just trying on their own. And I am so thrilled for her. I was hoping and praying it would work for her. And you too Naomi, I am glad the clomid worked and you got pregnant with just that and didn't have to resort to ivf. It's the ones that try for like a couple (or 1!) months and bam... pregnant. And it's the smugness and matter-of-factness of those people who take it for granted that when they want to have a baby they try and it happens and they tell you in a matter of fact way that makes me want to scream! Anyways, that's my thoughts about pregnant women in a nutshell! And I think I'm perfectly normal to think that! Oh Krissy, I understand the frustrations you have. It's so stressful worrying about the surgeries and knowing that is what stands in your way. I hope you can get it all worked out sooner rather than later so you can get it done and get on with ttc. Krissy - have you used clomid before? I can't remember. I know that it is not very expensive though.

Thanks girls, it was a really exciting moment! We're still taking it one day at a time. There's no knowing how it will go but hopefully hopefully it'll work out. My pregnancy symptoms are very mild, just some nausea, tiredness and slightly sore b___bs. I still get nervous when my b___bs don't hurt as much. I just want to get to 14 weeks and then I'll relax some more. Mandi, I know what you mean about different reactions to different people...I'm glad I'm in the 'good reaction' category! Krissy I do have Clomid left over - I think about 20 tablets. Would you mind if I hang on to them until we're past the first trimester? After that they're all yours if I can find a way to send them to you. I hope you manage to get your scar tissue removed...it will surely help by the sounds of things. Well we're off on our holidays tomorrow so you might not hear from me for a few weeks but please keep everything crossed for me...I'll let you know how things are going when I get back!! Thank you both for being the best support group I could hope for xx

sunshine7610 - Thank you for your support. Yes I have used clomid before I have had it prescribe and unprescribe and I just took some u/p this last cycle and it didn't work I got it from friend of mines who had 9 pills left over and she is currently 6 months pg and she thought it would help me out. I thought it was nice of her and she was just as bum about me still not getting pg. I am still taking my 1mg folic acid and prenatals. Right about now I am feeling so down like my chances of having another one is totally out of the question. I am going to try everything to get the money together to have this surgery and I will keep you posted. My new balance is $650.00 it is still alot but I can now start to see the end of the tunnel. How are you doing and feeling and I will talk to you soon take care. Naomi98 - How are you doing and feeling? Sure I can wait. I am going to have this surgery done if it kills me before the new year. I know have to come up with $650.00 and it will be done I can see the end now and that way I will find out one way or the other if I will be able to have kids. Have fun on your holidays where did you go? See you when you get back. Here is my little update I am on cd 6 and my period wasn't as bad. I will start using the opk on cd 10 I have to buy some I only have 2 left and when I went to big lots they were out of them so I will have to check this weekend so I can have enough. I manage to come up with $100 so I sent it to RE doctor and I know have to come up with the balance of $650.00 so my anesthesia is now paid in full. I will keep you all updated. I will bd I guess between now and cd 17 and have been ovulating between cd 13 & 14. I guess that is about it. Once I have my surgery done then we will have his blood work and SA done. I will talk to you all later. Love you girls. Krissy

Hey Naomi and Krissy! Just wanted to hear an update from you guys. Naomi, how are you feeling?? Is everything still going well for you? Had any more ultrasounds recently? Krissy, how about yourself? Any closer to surgery? As for me, AF showed up yesterday which sucked. I had a great looking temp chart and was hoping it would have worked this month. I started taking iron pills b/c I found out my iron levels were low. I was hoping that that was the missing link and it would kick my ovaries into gear or something! Of course I googled low iron and infertility and apparently there is a link but my fam dr said it takes a few months for the levels to get back to normal and I have to repeat that blood work in December. ......sigh.....maybe next month. However I am that much closer to doing ivf though. Anyways, I'm just checking in. Hope to hear from you both soon. ....Mandi

Mandi - How are you doing? As for me I am just preparing myself for AF. I am currently on cd25/14dpo and my temp went down from yesterday 98.65 to 98.49 but I didn't sleep good yesterday because my oldest daughter and 2 granddaughter were moving out of state so we were up early so I could take them to the airport it was a real sad day for me yesterday but I am doing a little better. I am just going to see what my temp is in the morning but if it goes down then I already know that AF will be here like clockwork and FF change my start day from Sat Sep 5 to Thur Sep 3. I have done real good and not even tested. Well for one I put up the test that I had and I haven't even look for it that is good for me because I know I will had been tested but I am just going to focus on trying to get the funds together because that is what I think I really need is the surgery to clean me out. As far as the funds I am still working on it I am really trying to have the surgery done before the end of the year so if you could just pray for me. I can't wait until Friday get here so I can send in my next payment and than my balance will either be $550.00 or $375.00 I am hoping for $375.00 that way I know it will be done before the end of the year. I will keep you updated. Keep taking your iron pills. Talk to you soon. Naomi98 - How are you doing and feeling? What is the update with you and baby? Thinking about you. Rub your belly for me. Krissy

Hey girls, how you all doing? I'm just back from an amazing 4 weeks in France. Our house is looking amazing but still a bit of a construction site. We just had the best time, hanging out with friends and family, going to the beach, having bbq's...all good. Mandi, are you still planning IVF in October? That is really soon! Krissy, sounds like you're working that debt down...good for you. I hope you manage to get that surgery. I'm not sure what to do about the Clomid...I can't post it to you from here (Angolan postal system is not to be trusted, it will disappear for sure) so I'd need to wait until either I leave the country again or else someone else agrees to post it for me from outside. Do you want me to do that? It just might mean you have to wait a while. Anyways, I'm rubbing my belly like crazy for you in the meantime :-) I'm doing really great now. I feel like I'm finally coming out of the first trimester wobbles. The nausea has cleared up loads in the past week and I can get through the day without the naps. Boobs still pretty sore but not getting any bigger - how annoying is that lol! I had a scan at 11 weeks when we were in France. I only went to the hospital to find out what medication I could take for heartburn (I get bad attacks since the ectopic surgery) but they put me on a drip, did loads of tests and finally at 3am let me go home. It was all worth it for the scan...we saw his/her little arms and legs waving about. Very cool. I'm 13 weeks now, can't believe how quickly it goes by. Still no bump but I'm sure that'll start soon! Anyways, just wanted to drop in and say hi and hope you're both doing great. Nx

Naomi98 - Thank you for the update. I know you had a ball in France. When will you be moving their for good? When should the house be finish. I know you can't wait. Wow I can't believe you are 13 weeks already it seem just like yesterday that you were posting that you were pg. I can wait on the information for the clomid thanks for thinking about me. Well let me give you an update on me. On Sep 4 I was on cd 28 I took a hpt because it was my test date well it was neg with fmu I was okay with that but I had no signs of AF well when I got home from work still no AF so I still had some internet cheapies and it was bfp but the line wasn't as dark as I wanted it to be. I had thought I will just test again in the morning well I got woke up out of a deep sleep about 3am to the most heavy bleeding and pa__sing some real huge clots I have never seen anything like this before and this lasted for just about 3 days I was in so much pain I just wanted to die. I finally did stop I truely believe I did conceive but had a m/c. I am doing much better. I started using my opk on Sunday cd10 and today I'm on cd 12 and I got a bfp I am not really trying this time around we did bd yesterday in the wee hours of the morning but we didn't as of yet today. I will keep you posted on that. Also I am really starting to see the end of the tunnel as far as having the surgery done. I am happy that Friday is in a few days I will be sending in another payment. I will do this after I get my stupid flu shot. My new balance will either be $450.00 or $275.00. Also I am in the process of planning a tea party for my soon to be 5 year daughter next month. I just found out that she have 18 little girls in her cla__s and she makes 19. I know one thing these parents had better RSVP. Well I will be talking to you soon. Rub your belly and take care of yourself. Krissy

Hi Krissy, hun, I'm so sorry to hear about the chemical pregnancy. That's really hard to deal with. It's horrible having that rush of joy and then have it all taken away from you in a flash (I'm sure you conceived if you got a BFP). Does it make you feel any more hopeful that it might happen eventually? Anyways, I'm just sorry to hear what you went through and hope you're feeling better now. I can't post much more as we have a powercut right now and i need to save my computer battery but I'm thinking of you and i'll write more later xx

Naomi98 - How are you doing? I am doing much better and whenever you get a chance just email me again. Talk to you soon have a nice weekend. Krissy

Hi Naomi and Krissy! It's been a while since I've checked in here. Naomi, I didn't know you were going to France. How amazing that must have been. Was it purely vacation or some work too? So are you having a house built in Angola or doing renovations? I can't believe you are 13 weeks now! Wow that time flew by. ....Maybe not to you if you've had morning sickness! It just seems like yesterday you got your bfp. I hope the rest of your pregnancy goes smoothly for you! What made you go into the hospital in France? Krissy, you are almost there in paying things off! You'll have it done in no time. It must be heartbreaking to have had that early bfp and then lose it but it's still very encouraging that you got a bfp at all, right? As for my little update, here it is. I phoned my RE a couple days ago to see if we needed to do anything before we get into the swing of things with IVF. I was on day 16 so they said I can start doing injections on day 19 (today) of suprefact to start supressing my ovaries and I have to go back in a week for a scan and I should probably get my period then too, and then I guess I start the injections a couple days after. AAAHH! So it looks like I'm really doing this now! I'm kind of freaked out and scared about the whole thing but I've kind of run out of choices. So, it's weird b/c I know I ovulated a few days ago, but my temp never really went up like it should. So when my dr told me to start the meds I was worried about starting them when I still had a chance of being pregnant. But with my temps now, I'm not worried and am glad that we are starting it all now instead of waiting another cycle. So keep your fingers crossed for me and I'll keep you updated! Mandi.