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Um, Tiffany..? The POSTER of this THREAD is RECOMMENDING the use of this drug in an UNPRESCRIBED manner... Therfore women who are interested in an "alternative to clomid" will be reading the post... so wouldn't you think that these women might WANT information about the drug that has been suggested? Wouldn't you think that the possible side effects would be a somewhat important piece of information to share? Why would you want to keep this information from them? These women aren't GOING to their doctors ( note the order-online-without-prescription references) so they wouldn't be getting this info from their doc, now would they? Maybe take the time to read the entire thread before commenting... it will do you good.

I would like to point out that it is hard to be mean (the opposite of nice) when all one has done is copy and paste from webMD. That is information without bias. The only person that seems to have a problem with the info so far is Tiffany. Everyone else seems to think it is useful, which is probably why it is on webMD to begin with. I didn't post it to be mean, I didn't call the originator dirty names or make judgements against anyone, I simply posted information. I will leave any judgementalism to you, since you seem to have something against medical info and the posters thereof.

I was PRESCRIBED pergonal and my doctor had both my husband and me sign release forms saying we understood the risks. TIFFANY - No woman who has taken Pergonal would be horrified to read the the side effects on this forum. Women on this drug have already been down a long, tough road and won't be shaken that easily. This is a heavy drug with serious consequences. The only bright side is that without U/S monitering and a carefully timed HCG trigger shot, Pergonal is basically useless in conceiving. :)

tiffany, this whole site is called PREGNANCY INFO. In case you didn't know, info is short for information which is what these ladies are seeking. Take that out and it defeats the whole purpose. KWIM?

Yetanothertripletmom, so would you say that getting this u/p from an internet site would be useless? the only problem that I have had and still have with a select few of you is the mannor in which you "deliver" your "medical advice". It's just funny because, I belong to a few other sites and they never, never, never speak in the mannor in which you do.........example, on another pregnancy site a topic might come up about say, Pergonal. Say the same post as this one. The women would then, have a conversation. One might say, Oh, I've tried that but had to sign a release. Or, another might say I foind some interesting information on it here it is.......Then, they would have a nice conversation about the pro's and con's. They would leave out the sarcastic and rude comments such as........I pray you are joking......do you suppose?......have fun with this................ick ick ick.........I don't know when you will understand that if you are really trying to "help" people by informing them then, it would be smart to keep the sarcasm and rude remarks out of the discussion.......and onetwothree, you are exactly right, it is about pregnancy info, not pregnancy info and sarcasm and rudness if you have a different view than us. Right? It's just funny because this is the only message board regarding pregnancy that is so hostile and bias. Why isn't it okay with you when someone has a different view? Why can't it be okay to disagree? But, still be friendly and continue with the conversation.......I know this is such a waste but, I just hope one day you will see how what you are doing will never work as long as you "deliver" the information in such a fashion...... Oh and onetwothree, I am fine so far, I am six weeks and I have had horrible ms for a week and a half now. It gets pretty bad. I have also had a couple bouts of spotting but, I think the horrible ms is a good sign. I go for my first ob appt tomorrow. I can't wait! ahhhh, the things we do to have children. I am quite positive that, no man in the world would go through these things, that's for sure!

My point in saying "have fun with this" is because I just knew someone would get on here and back up the idea that it is wise to take such medications without a perscription. In saying "do you suppose?" My meaning was, what do you suppose this does in the long term? It never said what any of these mean in the long term. What happens if your ovaries are enlarged? Do they stay that way? Does it go away? Do they get bigger? I couldn't find anything. However, the side effects are still scary!! Less so for the person taking them than for the possible fetus. I totally stand by my Ick statement. Those all sound horrible and who wants something like that to happen to their child? And, I still take issue with your miscarriage comment. You can say I was rude all you like, but attempting to induce shame through unfounded drama is probably worse. Oh, and yetanothertripletmom, did your doc say what any long term effects of these were? As mentioned before, I couldn't find anything. How were you while you were taking it? It is very nice to have you, onetwothree and mama-beans on here to share your experience and wisdom. Thanks!!

Tiffany - I think the internet is a great source to BEGIN researching fertility options. As for giving "medical advice?" If you read my posts, you'll notice I never do. I am adamant that women go to their DOCTOR. Pergonal is a ridiculously dangerous drug to self-medicate. to FRANCES - Pergonal was tough, far tougher than clomid. I was on a very small dose because I ovulate on my own occasionally. Usually women who ovulate on their own at all are not prescribed Pergonal. I still had HSOS (Hyperstimulated Ovary Syndrome). My ovaries were each the size of grapefruit! It was incredibilly painful and I was very bloated. I had horrible cramping and gas-like pains in my abdomen. I had 4 eggs mature and conceived. One was a blighted ovum, the other three are big, handsome 2 yr old boys now! I had HSOS from 4 weeks pregnant until 10-11 weeks pregnant. My ovaries are fine now and my kids are healthy. I was LUCKY. Some women have to have surgery to drain fluid from their abdomen or even have their ovary(ies) removed. Scary stuff.

I don't even get where this is going. Tiffany, I am sorry but I find your point to be completely moot. I mean, how can someone honestly be mad from a post containing important information that is helpful to others? And the strange thing is your reasoning keeps changing about why you are mad. First, it was reading it will cause a m/c. Then it was the mother will worry of deformity. Now it is the sarcasm that came with the information. I'm sorry but none of these have a leg to stand on and actually make no sense.

I'm not going to keep repeating myself. Reread the posts. I'm not looking for a fight. I was wondering if the information could be stated in an un-bias mannor that's all. I am tired of having my words twisted and turned around to be what you want them to be. Is it really that bad that I want all of you to be kind and have lady-like conversations? Re-read the posts. I'm sorry but, it's not me that comes of as rude and sarcastic. What's wrong with you people?

gotta run ladies. Let's just try and be un-bias and kind. okay.

Whoa, I go to the store with dh and ds and come back and wow! Yetanothertripletmom, that sounds really scary! I'm so happy you and your little ones are healthy!! How do you manage with three? That sounds really hard! I've not heard anyone talk about the swollen ovary thing before. Glad you didn't have to have any surgical procedures or anything else, that would stink. I do have a question for you, how did they find out that you occasionally ovulate on your own? Did you end up having to test every month? I'd be interested to hear your story! We have some odd pregnancy happenings in our family as well, although we seem to conceive fairly easily most of the time (but not all!) there are some unusual things that go on from time to time, and not just multiples! Tiffany, I give up. Do what you want, say what you want, I don't think you are altogether sane, sorry but I don't care anymore. I'm glad that tripletmom was under her doc's supervision, that's the only way to go. I would never argue with a physician's advice, they know more than me. And just for the record, I did pa__s on a physician's advice, that is called cutting and pasting. I only added my opinion to the facts, that it is a serious medication with scary possible side effects. I would hope no one would take it without trained medical supervision. To all others, thanks for any input you have! Let's keep the information freely rolling!!!

to TIFFANY - Please don't put words in my mouth. I have enough of my own, thank you. I'm not offended by what Frances has written. Quite the contrary. I appreciate information and facts. They don't scare me, women taking unprescribed fertility drugs do. FRANCES - I love my little boys so much. They are my joy and worth every moment of my infertility journey! I have PCOS and initially I only ovulated on Clomid or the month after clomid. I actually got pregnant (ended in miscarriage) the month after my first unsuccessful round of clomid. I then went on glucophage to balance out my sugar and insulin levels. I started ovulating on my own with the glucophage. I didn't use OPKs, but I charted my BBT (Basal Body Temperature). I got pregnant again within a few months of starting to ovulate and miscarried again. I had 3 miscarriages altogether. I finally had miscarriage testing done and found I have a blood-clotting disorder. The RE treated me with fertility drugs (to ensure I became pregnant quickly and with high quality eggs) and blood-thinners and I was able to successfully carry my triplets. :)

That really sounds like a long hard road. I glad it all worked out though. I am also sorry to hear about your m/c's. Those are sooo hard. I really think it's great that you ended up with what sounds like a beautiful family. We are hoping to have a couple of our own and then adopt a couple when ours get a bit older. We're pretty big on kids in my family, if ya can't tell ; ).

I definitely wouldn't be going that route without a dr's O.k and close monitoring, that is strong stuff and from what I am aware of used for IVF etc......please don't use it without a dr!

Thanks Linda, and welcome!!!

I read in your post that that you ovulate the month after clomid also... Is there a reason for that? I am not ovulating without clomid. I havent got preggy for 1and 1/2 years so the dr is moving on to injectables, but will be taking a break for a month. Do you think I should still try this month? are there any chances? thanks.