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Amy- it is devastating to go thru! And I believe the worst part is when you have an ultrasound by a tech and not the dr. especially when something is wrong and you just know it. It's like.... grrr... My last u/s the tech said that there was no fetal pole to be seen, etc. I told the dr. that is bs because where would it have gone (seen the fetal pole the day before at another dr. office) and so, the dr. herself actually checked and sure enough it was there. Small, and not growing the way it should, but she did find it. That tech lady really "p__sed" me off. But, at the same rate, it wasn't a good pregnancy. Just don't say there isn't a fetal pole to be seen when there is. It actually had a heartbeat the week before. So, blighted ovum ruled out. But, that tech made it look like I had a blighted ovum instead of a loss of the fetus. Its so frustrating to go thru. D&C 4 weeks ago today. Still waiting on af. For the first time in my life, I am anxious about getting it.

Daniella, I am from all over - Met and married dh in VA 15 yrs ago. We have been all over the southern states ever since - we have been here the last 3 years and have 1more year to go. Who knows after that. I hope your af comes soon!!! You are in my prayers!!

Thanks Julie- I've also been all over. Right after my husband and I got married (4 years ago) we moved to VA. Lived by Oceana... Then right before we got here in Japan 10 months ago, we lived in San Diego. Didn't really care for SD. ANyhow, so you have only one child now (10 yr old)? Is that right? In the 4 years we've been married, I've had one ectopic pregnancy (2 years ago), one natural m/c (8 months ago) and this D&C (one month ago)... So, not looking so good. I know my time will come when its good and ready. Just hard to accept that nothing after 4 years and some get pregnant the first month. LOL.. but, honestly didn't want a child that soon after we got married. Yet, now that we do, its not happening. You are in my prayers as well!

Keep the faith! Besides my ectopic I had (which I didn't know I was pregnant - my af started and never stopped - it was bizzar) but besides that, it took almost 11 years to get pregnant. I know it's frustrating because all you hear are people who get pregnant and dont want it or people who go through a mc and get pregnant right away and then there was me... 10 years... I thought something was wrong with me but maybe we were trying too hard. We gave up trying and it happened. Relax and try not to think about anyone else's pregnancies and how fast "they" are getting pregnant - trust me, it will drive you nuts and send you to depression. Go back to the gyn and start some testing. He can get tested too - it might not be you... That's what we were in the process of doing (he just got tested) when I came up preg. I wish the absolute best for you and your dh. Don't ever give up or ever loose faith - it will happen!!!!

Julie- Thanks!! We do have an apt. on the 25th to go over our options. Dr. says its not him because I've been pregnant. Its more likely just my hormones. But, on another note.... we haven't been "trying" its more like we haven't been "not trying". lol. if you know what I mean. And I'm not a depressed kind of person. So, that won't happen. I am still young enough to accept that I have time to have a baby, and when its ready it will happen. I am very confident!! oh and by the way... my ectopic was the same way. I had no idea I was pregnant, just seemed like my af wouldn't go away. I seriously had it for a month straight. I just thought my body was acting up as usual (I've always had weird af, due to my hormone problems). But, after a week of shooting pain in my side, I had a feeling something was wrong until "that day" when it ruptured. So, once I find out I'm pregnant again, I have to make sure that its in the uterus asap. I'm sure you'd do the same. I dunno about you, by my ectopic was a result of loosing a fallopian tube. I'd be d__ned to lose my only one left.

I'am 14 weeks preg now. The first u/s that I had they didn't see anything and if they went off my Lmp I should've been at least 7 to 8 weeks. They saw me 2 weeks later and i was only 7 weeks. So it was just to early I hope in your case it was to early. I was very scared this is my 5 preg I had 3 miscarriages befor I had my daughter and she is now 17 months and we have one on the way. So in the begining I was very scared and I still am. I don't think I'll ever stop being scared until the baby is in my arms. I wish all the best of luck for you and your family.

Daniella - I know what you mean - I only have my left tube and it was nice to rule out ectopic with the u/s - that was my main concern. Even when they didn't find anything in the sac the first time, I was thinking that maybe it could be stuck up there somewhere. Luckily everything worked out and everything is where it should be this time... So far so good - I'll start breathing in April :) I am glad you are not the type to get depressed easily. It is hard to get out of once you're in it. Keep me posted, I would like to know how your appointment goes and what they say... Best of luck to you!!!!

well, I have had a few days to think everything through and let it sink in. still have to go to the horomone test tomorrow. I'm not too worried about that. I am dreading the fact that i work with a hundred of people who know I'm pregnant... you know the kinds that run up with the annoying shreeky vioce and start rubbing your belly.Yeah! I stayed out friday to avoid it. Today is a differant story! I still think it would be easier to say it once on the intercom(dont really have on) and demand that it not be brought up again. Onstead Im going to have to tell ppl over and over and over! boy! I think I see myself going home early! But! overall I'm healing (emotionally) pretty quickly. wich is all i can ask for!

Thanks Julie! I will keep you posted, as I'd like to hear from you as well. Also, how far along are you right now? From LMP? Or since conception? I never went by my LMP, because it would always show that I should be further along since I ovulate late. So, I can only detect by ovulation. I also, wish the best to you!! :)

i went for my first u/s at 5 weeks and i was told i have empty sac, then my doctor told me to wait 10 day and go for the second one. at the second s/u at about 6/7 weeks they could not find any baby, meanwhile the hcg level was at 4000 so my dont scheduled me for d&c on saturday, and im doing fine

The baby dated at 6w4d last week so its somewhere 7w3d now. I don't understand how they figure it's somewhere around 9 weeks as I wasn't pregnant before ovulation... Dr's are so weird. Anyway, I am only making this log thread longer, if you would like to email me so we can keep in touch without making this tread the longest on the website cool! If not, I'll keep checking back here :) pjnrss5@yahoo.com I think it's pretty neat that we found out we're both in Japan. Anyway, I would still like an update to see how you are - take care!

Julie- the drs go by your LMP (last menstral period), not by conception. So, they will actually tell you that you are 2 weeks further along then you actually are. Just an easier way for them to keep track. So, in reality..... if you ovulate on the normal 14 days since the first day of your period, and you got pregnant..... 2 weeks later (so, you think your 2 weeks), they actually say that your 4 weeks. LOL.... Hope that helps!! Also, I added you on my yahoo. :)

In response to my message from August 9th. Daniella, thank you for your earlier response. I was out of town until Monday and that same day I had my 3rd u/s and this time the dr found an empty sac with no fetal pole. I should be at 8-1/2weeks at least so I had the D&C yesterday. This one was much easier than the first one back in May. I am just hoping and praying that the third time is a charm! Just trying to stay positive!! Love the updates from all of you!

Hi, Just want to share my story with you all. Had an u/s a week ago and was told I have an empty sac. I was speechless. like what the hell does she mean, never in my life hear of such thing. I was 91/2 wks prgnant and anxious to hear my baby's heart beat and nothing. I read everything in sight about baby's developments, I could tell you what stage they should be from 1 month to the delivery, but never hear of an empty sac until now. I went home and did a search and came to your site. Thank you. now I have a better understanding as to what an empty sac is. Went to the doctor for him to give me a better explanation, as the tech would not say much, more than my doctor will explain what I need to do. My doctor was not in the office but another doctor was there, to make a long story short he walked in and just said to me, " we have to do a D&C". I looked at him and said, what is that? I wanted an explanation and some sympathy from him and nothing, not even am sorry for your lost. I told him I need a referral to have a second u/s done, which he gave me. I know something is wrong, the body can tell. I have had no signs of m/c, no cramps, no spotting. I go for my second u/s tomorrow and I know that I will get the worst. but I just want to be sure and feel complete. I dont think that I could have it naturally as I am afraid of the pain, but It would somewhat helps me if I go to the bathroom and see some sign. waiting for that is killing me. Ladies I just want to say Thank you. This is really a helpful information.

Hi all, I have a sad update to my last post. I had a miscarriage on monday. I had an u/s that morning and the sac was in tact. There was a fetal pole but it was the same size as the prior week and no heartbeat still. I miscarried that night (on vacation). I am fine and do not want a D&C ! Most has been discarded on its own but I know my Dr. He is going to insist on a D&C. He's been talking about it since the sac was empty! Sorry for the sad news. For the record, in case it helps anyone I started with a dark brown staining on Aug 7 and it progressed very slowly until Aug 14 when there was a slight red show. On Aug 16 I miscarried. I hope to have good news to report in the near future and I will be praying for all of you as well. God Bless! p.s. I am still changing Dr's even if he was right. Every u/s tech and radiologist dr I encountered was sooo sympathetic. I have spoken to my Dr office like 5 times, not one nurse nor the Dr has even said "I am Sorry" Zippo! They are horrible and I will put it in writing to them when I request my file.

Gail, I am hoping and praying for you. I know how you feel with these Dr's some of them should be working on cars. Don't they teach them in school women are not made of steel! All the best- God Bless you!