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we arent saying you are a B*tch because you want the best for her baby... we just think the way you handled this is rude and that you read so much about her is a little creepy.

once again grow-up - NOBODY HAS SAID THEY WISH OR ENCOURAGE HER TO TRY TO HAVE HER BABY EARLY. Let it go!

I read other threads just as you all do and seeing her trying to have her baby early irked me. And again I'm not referring to things being said just on this thread, this is just where I choose to respond to it all. No, some of you aren't encouraging her labor, but on the july thread everyone is cheering her on and giving her suggestions on how to make herself dilate. I think it's absurd. I read other threads just as you all do.

We aren't trying to encourage her to have a baby that will be in nicu. Most of us talk outside this webpage also. So many of us have other information that your not getting. Its not right for you to handle all of this, this way its not nice and mean and it doesn't help any. So why continue? Her doctors who know a lot more then any of us and they are not worried, so I don't think you should try and make her feel like c___p!

I read when people ask questions but since Im not a july mommy I dont go reading through their thread... so its NOT the same thing as picking up bits of info here and there.. I seems to me that you went and read everything she ever posted. The ladies in the july thread may be encouraging her, bu only because they know that her doctors gave her the okay. Im sure if Kenrda didnt have the okay from her doctors and she was just trying to induce labor for the fun of it they wouldnt be so supportive. regardless of what OTHER people are doing... its really none of your business or concern. I understand you arent replying to this one post (which by the way was a simple and honest question) you are only posting here because it is the most recent but its still absurd to attack someone who was trying to ask a question. If you dont like what she is doing then that sucks for you but if you are going to post a reply to someones post it just makes sense to say something pertains to their question and it would be nice if it were something productive.

I don't want her to feel like c___p, I want her to stop trying to have her baby before he's probably ready.

thats fine but how do you KNOW that he isnt ready... Im sure her doctors have done tests and/or given her steroids to mature his lungs and done everything they can to ensure his safety. I just dont think its right for you to come in here with bits and pieces of information and make an a__sumption about a person. she knows more about her situation than any of us do so all we can do is be here for her and help her out with her questions and concerns.

How does she KNOW he is ready? She doesn't which is why she should be trying to wait. I've said it's possible he could be perfectly fine but that it's irresponsible to take the risk.

I understand your position, but if her doctors gave her the go ahead then why shouldn't she try to ease her pain. Her body is trying to progress with or without her help... if its causing her physical pain and her doctors say its okay then I dont see a problem with trying to help nature take its course. Like I said before.. its not like she is uncomfortable and just wants to try to induce labor for the heck of it, she has been given the okay by DOCTORS and her body is going to do what its gonna do so why fight it. anyway.. I have things to do so Im going to log off for while. Its been nice chatting with you. have a great night everybody :)

From everything i have read it seems she is just saying they gave her the go ahead... i don't believe half the c___p she has written, no dr would say use primerose oil to induce that early...NO DR would induce that early it doesn't matter what your stomach measures... this is ridiculos that soo many people are saying she should go ahead and induce. do you not care that her baby is NOT ready to come out? if he was he would come out on his own... all because you have some discomfort you want to bring your child early, do you know HOW many woman had their children early and watched as their LO's were hooked up to every machine and locked in an incubater...they wish they could have kept their babies in... you are risking the health of your son, due to some discomfort....if you can't handle pregnancy DONT GET PREGNANT!! you are putting yourself before your child, and thats not what a mother does, it saddens me how many woman are scared to speak up when they know this is wrong and that her childs health is at risk....

momma21, I understand what you are saying but while YOU may not believe her we have no reason not to. You DONT know for sure what her doctors told her and all we know is what she tells us. why should we rag on her or shun her, she is asking questions and looking for advice... her July mommy friends are sticking with her because they "know" her, and they know her better than we do. my point is whether or not what she is doing is right or wrong according to you it doesnt and shouldnt make any difference. You aren't her doctor, none of us are so all we can do is support her in what she decided to do rather than belittle people on a forum designed to help each other out.

Would you still say we should support what she decided to do if she does in fact have her baby tonight and he has to be placed in the NICU for problems caused by prematurity? Or will you think perhaps more people should have encouraged her to take it easy and do everything she can to keep him in there? Sometimes people need to step up and say something even if it isn't nice according to everyones' standards. If a woman came on here saying she was still smoking and it was ok because she did with her first baby and it was fine I'm sure you would say something. Not everything every woman posts should be supported.

This is ridiculous... honestly it must be all children on here right now...cuz NO grown woman with ANY knowledge or how children develope in utero would ever try to help a girl induce her labor or cheer her on for inducing her labor this early.... People lose their children from them being born too early...and yet here she is risking her childs life and health because she is uncomfortable..i have read her other posts...and NO that isn't creepy since other ppl read other posts all the time, get over it there...its an open forum....if you want it to be a secret private message.... she has complained NONstop about her pregnancy... and now because she "thinks" she is having contractions which are just BH she wants to get him out.... and then what, what will you all say when he is born too early and is in the NICU, what then will you tell her how sorry you are and how horrible that is when she did it to her own child? It is foolish and childish to get pregnant if you can't handle it...and if you can't handle pregnancy how can you handle parenthood?? Yes i said it.... i don't think she is mature enough to be a parent if she can't put her childs safety and well being above her own discomfort...and NO no actual dr would say hey your not even full term yet lets bring this baby out now just for the heck of it... I had SEVERE complications with my pregnancy including preeclampsia and yet they still wouldnt bring my dd any earlier than 2 weeks before her dd, and even then they were scared that she would need the nicu team they were there when i had an emergency csection...BUT not once during my pregnancy did i TRY to bring my dd early, because her health means more...it really is sad that NO ONE here besides growup has mentioned how unhealthy and unsage it is for her to try to bring this baby so soon!!! so what are all the July mommies gonna try to become june mommies, i mean hell you're cheering her on why dont you all drink some castor oil..and bring your babies early....hmmm thats right because you know better and don't want to risk your childs life...if you really cared about kendra or her child you WOULDNT cheer her on you would warn her of the dangers that inducing so soon could bring...but better her than you huh?? selfish children

I dont think you understand that Im not disagreeing with you completely. I think he baby could benefit greatly from the last couple weeks in the womb and if he were born tonight and place in the NICU I would be sad for him and kendra and her family. But I will not come on here and judge her for doing something that her and her doctors decided was okay. Its not my place to tell her what to do or what she is doing is wrong. what is my opinion to her when her doctors told her it was okay. I really think Smoking and helping nature along are two totally different things. but still, if a woman posted that she was smoking while pregnant, firstly I would answer her questions or concerns that she had in her post and if she mentioned smoking I would inform her of the facts and statistic.. but I maintain that it is NOT my plae to judge people. Its not helpful or productive and its just rude. If you dont like what someone is doing either keep it to yourself or if you REALLY feel like you need to say something just post unbiased facts in hopes that you inform the woman because that i all you really can do. there is no reason to be mean or judgmental especially if you arent being helpful... you are just stating your opinion and arguing with people.

momma21... you are arguing things that have already been mentioned and while I feel its a waste of time to reiterate things I have already said.. Im kind of bored so what the heck... there is a difference between encouraging someone to induce themselves prematurely and supporting them in a situation that as far as we know its perfectly safe to do so. She is early.. her baby is premature but, again, as far as we know her doctors have told her its okay to help her body do whats its naturally doing. Who are you to come here and say that her contractions are only braxton-hicks.. are you her doctor? did you examine her?? I didnt think so, so dont tell me that you know what is going on with me. We only have the information she gives us and we have NO reason not to believe her so instead of ridiculing her we support her and if that makes us bad people then fine but dont you dare call us children and imply that we dont want what is best for each other and our kids! Also, it IS creepy that "grow up" researched and dug into Kendras posts.. yes this is a public and open forum I never once said that her posts were private and "grow up" didnt have any right to read them.. I merely stated that her reading all of them (especially with the sole intent of ripping her apart) was creepy and in my opinion a bit 'stockerish'. but whatever, thats her right I suppose.

I meant to say "whats going on with her" not me...