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...and i'm sorry you cannot keep up with my posts, i enjoy the english language and use it to express myself, had i known i was talking to an imbocil who could not keep up, i would have used smaller words and made shorter replies, like this. i just thought maybe you were really out for information, my bad, you're only out to breed nastiness. so i'll keep my posts shorter so you can keep up. no problem.

Wow, this is a hot little debate, huh? I can tell you that livsmommy and NM are indeed two different people, and actually, two of the most well imformed people I know, when it comes to lots of things, not just smoking mj and the effects. There are a lot of very sadly misinformed people on here, so it's not even worth it to argue with any of you, because some of you are very set on your opinions and won't listen to any evidence that maybe smoking mj isn't as "evil" as you all think it is. And NM - I think you do deserve a mommy of the year award, I know you a little bit better than most of the people posting on here, and I know you are an amazing mom, as is livsmommy. Don't listen to people that have so much anger and hate in them. ;)

This is to nm...I've been following all of your posts and I'm proud of you for homeschooling all of your children. I am on your side about what you're saying. I'm getting more out of what you're trying to tell others, then others are trying to get (If that made any sence). You take a hit here and there and you still are able to teach you're children what they need to know, acedemically and everything else they need to know about life. You are a wonderful mommy and I give you all props. Keep your head high and try not to get all worked up over those stupid people who don't get what you're trying to say. And to all those who don't like nm, I guess you don't like me either, so what.

Why would you go onto a pregnancy and postnatal forum and say it's "disgusting to have so many children". What does that have to do with anything? God, I don't want/couldn't handle that many kids but I sure-as-hell don't think it's disgusting that she have them. The only thing that's disgusting is your comment. I'm not in love with somebody "smoking up" while b___stfeeding or pregnant but she did explain that it's a toke here and there for a specific reason. I would sooner see that then somebody smoking cigarettes and they're legal!! NM's posts are long but they're not rambling and uninformed. Maybe you're the one having trouble concentrating? I'm sitting on the fence on this topic but if you're going to make an argument try to be informed and try not to make an a__s of yourself with stupid comments.

Wow. This thread is full of horrid comments. I think that people forget that there is a human being on the other end. I used to smoke pot when I was younger and didn't mind the paranoia, but not while bf. I think the fact that the evidence for harm is unclear is reason enough to stay away. O occasionaly need to take a pain-killer for my TMJ, but give my baby formula when I do. At least until the elimination half-point has been reached.

im b___stfeeding and i want to get high one more time. what are the chances of this affecting my baby?

I am not sure but is it possible for you to pump the milk b4 getting high? You could do a google to find the half-life of marijuana and wait until half of it leaves your blood before b___stfeeding, if you are really concerned.

thank you P, livsmomma, vita, and tara. i know i posted a lot, but i was trying to get my point across and i thought i did a good job of it. thank you for confirming that. i think my friend here has anger issues and just read through my posts with a hate filter on, never giving herself a chance to see what i was really saying. i hate ignorance. thanks for bringing some much needed fresh outside input on this! and nicole, if you'd like to talk to other momz who smoked and/or are smoking (i should say "toking"), email my friend, smokinmomz@yahoo.com. she can answer questions and hook you up with good info! good luck!

so where'd my friend go? somebody who can't admit when they are wrong is somebody who cannot be trusted.

Still feeling feisty eh? lol

For one, just b/c you smoke MJ doesn't make you a bad mother. My mother smoked with me and I turned out VERY well. Dean's list in college, made it all the way through and I have myself a good job with a great family. There's no studies b/c the government is behind ALL of it. Why do you think they penalize potheads so bad?? Because that's more money the government makes off of it. People just need to open their eyes and look at the real world. I work in a law office and I can't tell you how many attorneys and doctors and police officers smoke or even grow it. I bet the people that are on here saying you shouldn't smoke MJ haven't even tried it, they are just trying to put their two cents in where it doesn't belong. MJ will be legal one day...........................then what are you going to do. Stupid people just really p__s me off.

In Ontario (I'm not sure about the rest of Canada) it has been de-criminalised which means if you get busted with it(up to a certain amount - dealing is still criminal) you only get a $105 fine.

I was just digging around the bathroom, and came across some weed that some friends gave to us long ago. I thought of you guys:) DH plans to have a little this weekend. It makes me too paranoid so I will pa__s on it. I remember when I was 21, and smoking every night. I knew it was a problem when I quit answering the phone from severe paranoia.

A friendly note to: nm, livesmomma and those in agreement: I love living in a country where everyone is allowed to have their own opinion. I myself was BASHED by ES because she thought that she had a better degree than me and because I disagreed with her point of view. It's a shame that the only way for people to make an argument is to put people down, and force them into the defensive. That just shows how weak their arguments are, and more importantly, how unsure of their arguments really are. This site is suposed to be a safe place for women to get annonomous insight to their queries. It's a shame how we "pot tollerant" moms have been demonized here, when we are trying to get information and understanding. We are autonomous adults with our own decisions. We own those decisions and stand behind them. If you oppose our pont of view, you can make your point with out insulting us or being rude. NM and livesmomma are very good mothers, and I don't blame them for their defensive remarks, but please ladies, there is no need for you to stoop to others level... As long as you know and your kids know that you are caring and pa__sionate mothers, why give these strangers a second thought? You've let them get you angry and all riled up, and I can tell it's not really your style. I didn't take it personally when ES took cheap shots at me, and I'm glad to see I'm not the only one with an open mind and heart. You need not take the hostility personally either. This "Julie" character is another hostil one...maybe she's mad at herself for smoking so long, or self loathing or something. Sounds like she had an eating disorder ontop of her pot abuse. I don't understand why she's so rude and hostile making personal attacks on a site meant for positive and safe support. I just don't want you to fall into her or anyone elses trap... It just makes us look as poor as them. Angel originally asked for research on b___stfeeding and smoking MJ. You moms who have, and have shown your kids to be healthy are a true testament to that, and that's what the discussion is about. I long windedly explained the history of it's illegality, just the mere fact that it is illegal does not make it harmful to you or your baby. The politics behind the illegality are tied into profits of the pharmaseudical companies. Anyone on this site who has condemned it has done so out of their own preconsieved notions. You ladies have lived yours and are proof positive that what you are doing is best for you and your children. So stand strong and don't even justify the hostility with a retort. It will only fall on their deaf ears, which is why they think the way they do. Because they don't listen with the ear in their hearts. And nm, if you want to write 1,000,000 words about it, go ahead. this is the place for it. A safe place for you to support Angel in her question and also for you to be supported. As many words as you like. As often as you like. Long live free speach, even if it's hateful. But recognize the hostility for what it is, It comes from a hostil person that deserves no justification. Love, Cali-girl.

Wow! i finally got here girls!!! i can indeed confirm that natural and livsm are two diff ppl..i have known livs...for over a year now and nat for three months or so....i run the website for pot smokin moms or just mommies who smoke pot and have kids!!! i didnt personally smoke with my baby ..my decision! i dont judge ppl on what they choose....this is a free company and mairjuana legal or not is gonna be here forever..toke on my fellow smokers!! and email me at smokinmomz@yahoo.com for the link to our website!!!

Hi nm and livsmommy - I have a question. Do either of you smoke in front of the kids? I am not going to judge, and it is possible you don't want to say after all of the bashing that has occured. I am just wondering if you do, and if they ask you questions about it. My husband will not mind if our son smokes weed as a teen. I will mind if it makes him lazy and his grades suffer. If he can handle his responsibilites while smoking once in a while, I don't think it is such a big deal. Will you smoke with them when they are older? Again, no judging on my side, just an honest curiosity.