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There are tons of kids who have behavior problems with non smoking parents. And most psycologists solution to adhd IS a powerful drug called ritalin. What say you?

P.S. And since when is pregnancy a cure for drug adiction?

pregnancy is no cure for drug addicition. If you are an addict you should take precautions and not get pregnant. Get off the drugs instead!!! You should not have children if you are not prepared to care for them. As for Ridilin- It is not a cure it is a drug to make life easier for the momies. Instead of taking care of your children you pump them full of new drugs. You guys think drugs is the anwerer to everything. I was very upset when I typed about the behavior problem. Not all children who have problems are from drug addicted parents, but I am positive at least 95 percent of the children I helped were and were medicated for some type of behavior disorder. We used to call them the BPS kids Bad Parenting Syndrom. I'm sorry if I am causing an upset. This subject is very hard for me. I have been TTC for 14 months just mc in april. It took 2 years with 2 mc for my daughter who is now 4(nursed for 1 year). I did everything by the book, no drugs of any kind, no cold meds, no alcohol, no caffinated bev., no chocolate for the entire 3 years 9 months. I drank 8 gla__ses a water a day took my prenat vitamin religiously from the time I we started trying until the day I stopped nursing. It really upsets me to see mothers who don't care about that wonderful bundle of joy they have been given. Take chances hoping everything will turn out because their getting high or drunk or cigarrettes are more important. I just wanted to let you know where I stand.

well ya know what kc, i also had 2 miscarriages due to hypermesis and both times i was clean of mj. with my 3rd pregnancy i did all of the research i could and asked doctors and nurses their opinions of mj usage while preggo. i got back that it is not harmful and does not cause any types of problems with the child later in life. i myself am a product of a pot smoking mother and am quite intelligent with no attention problems or anything. so i smoked weed throughout my entire pregnancy and now i have a beautiful, brilliant 16 month old daughter(whom i also nursed) to thank my marijuana use for...not all women who smoke weed (and i am only talking about weed) are the addicts and bad parents you think we are. some of us truley have our childrens best interest at heart.

Please pardon me if I take a harsh tone. I don't think that drugs are the answer to everything. You sure do make alot of a__sumptions! How are you sure 95% of all cases are drug related? Plus those are the case YOU handled: problem cases. You didn't handle any cases that were problem free, did you? I am a marijuana advocate. I chose to quit during my pregnancy as a personal choice, but I am sick of the judgmental att_tude on this site acusing people of being bad parents because they smoke a little weed. It's NOT meth, acid, x, coke, or heroin. It's a natural herb that is in question here. You or anyone else on this thread DO NOT KNOW these mothers. You don't know if they are good loving nurturing mothers. Stop accusing them of being selfish. Please!! You just quote things out of no where. You wouldn't want anyone accusing you of being a bad mom. The cases you deal with likely involve hard drugs. I'm really sorry to hear that you had trouble with your first couple of pregnancies. I can only imagine what that would be like!! I'm glad that you do have the blessing of a daughter. you are probably a great loving, nurturing and caring mom. But you yourself said it, you were clean when you suffered the losses, so marijuana had nothing to do with it. So don't say that these mothers don't care about their children. That is presumptuous and frankly insulting. Especially since you don't even know them. You are basing your opinion on all of the foweled up cases you have dealt with. These moms ARE loving and caring and nurturing. This thread has gone WAY out of the scope...It is a place to be supported and comforted, not threatened, condemned or hated. It's not the Dr. Laura show. So don't accuse anyone of being a bad mom, don't say that someone shouldn't get pregnant, and Don't for the love of God accuse anyone of BPS. I know of several good and consered parents who have kids that are difficult to handle. Not everything is the parents fault. Take the log out of your own eye before you point out the speck in someone elses.

I feel it is a true MOTHER'S responsibility to keep her children safe. No matter how small the risk, I as a mother would not take that risk of harming any child. I feel all of you are VERY SELFISH in putting your own needs above your children's. The difference between my view and doctor's are (ps I am a close personal friend with an ob and his wife who is an er doctor) The both told me that they have the same strong feelings as I do, infact all doctors do, However they are not allowed to express their feelings to their patients for fear of lawsuits. So yes. When your doctor says to you smoking cig. or dope is okay they are grinding their teeth the whole time. So the concensus is: you are ignorant and all child abusers if you knowingly are putting your childs life and future at risk. If you do not know the harm you are causing that is fine. But the pure fact you are looking for "proof" it is okay to pour harmful drugs into your childs systems that is enough proof to me you are feeling some guilt. I for one would not want to spend my life feeling guilty for causing trauma to my child. So if YOU DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN. Go ahead and screw up their life. Maybe your child will turn out okay but they do learn what they see. And even if mj is not as harmful as other drugs, it can lead to an addiction to the more harmful drugs. Maybe you yourselves do not (I highly doubt it) partake in crack, heroin ect. your child might when they turn into their teens and all you will have to blame is yourself for introducing your children to the life of dope heads. I'll let you ponder this as I am so disgusted with your att_tiudes and your lack of love for the most precious gift you have been given. So I am finding a site of mothers who really care about raising children instead of teaching thier kids how to use a bowl. Sorry if I didn't get the terminology right. I am not familiar with this subject. You may think I am judgemental but I am only trying to watch out for your children. Which you are too stoned to do yourself. You can reply back but I will not be reading it.

It seems to me that the majority of the respondents have not researched this subject, so I'll simply ask why are you writing about what you don't know?

Wow livsmomma, why so rude? Can't someone have an opinion without all of your p__s and bile? The saddest thing is that I agree with you, you are a great mom, but why do you have to be so cra__s and hit below the belt with comments about someone's difficulty concieving? She obviously triggered something in you to reveal an insecurity, otherwise you wouldn't have to take cheap shots at her. For heaven's sake, she's a stranger! You don't even know each other. Does her opinion even really matter to you? Keep in mind, I agree with you and disagree with her, but you can get your point across in a more loving compa__sionate way.

you have to understand that the poster is not the first to insult my parenting or even the fact that i care about my child. it seems every time someone mentions that they happen to have a child and they smoke marijuana they get attacked and insulted. its just that stupid comments like hers are kind of the straw that breaks the camels back ya know? i try my d__ndest to be pc and polite to rude ppl but sometimes i just get fed up with the ignorance surrounding marijuana.

yeah, I agree. I wrote to her as "dear kc", so you know where I stand. I lived for years in Chico and Santa Cruz, CA where pot is a huge part of our culture, and I know tons of healthy happy moms, dads, and families that have raised their children to be pot conscious. They smoke it right in front of their children and don't sneak around or hide it anymore than a parent would sneak a beer, or a gla__s of wine. Their kids grow up to be very mature at an early age, and make wiser choices as teens... not all crazy and reckless like kids who's parents shelter them from everything. I understand that floks like "julie", "kc" and holy smokes "ES" (the worst) are afraid of what they don't know. Plus, they think they know it all, when they are actually severely misenformed. So arrogant. They seem to lump all drugs together, as if: you like to smoke pot, you probably are a crack-head heroin junkie, using the famous "gateway" argument. They also love the "it might be laced" argument... But I know the source that grows it, they have no reason to lace it, or put chemicals in it. They use natural fertilizers like fish emultion. And It doesn't contribute to "drug trade" because It is not grown over the border... or even in ma__s quant_ties. These ladies are just very sheltered and are not familiar with the reality of pot culture or cultivation practices. I just forgive their ignorance, I mean after all, they feel like I am the ignorant one. You know in your heart that you aren't doing anything wrong. And they get so angry and offensive. "I hope social services takes your children away so they can have a chance in life" They have no clue in their tiny little worls about the several thousand+ year tradition of smoking the peace pipe. B___terfly wing said it best, we have forgotten the benefits of this PEACEABLE herb. I am so greatful of the peace, love and tollerance of my community, even from non smokers. Around here people just see it as like having a gla__s of wine... an enjoyable thing for adults to do socially to relax, enjoy themselves and bond. If I lived in an intollerant community I don't know WHAT I'd do...always having to look over my shoulder...wondering if the neighbor would call child protective services if they smell it creeping over the fence or what. I hope that in our lifetime that marijuana is legalized, or should I say prohibition is ended. That way the authorities can concentrate on REAL drug problems, like meth, which makes people violent, coke, which supports the Columbian cartel, heroin, which supports the Taliban in Afganistan... Drunk driving, one of the biggest teen killers, and other violent crimes. I support you and the other moms that love and care for their children, and still smoke pot. These anti pot ladies seem to think they are mutually exclusive. Pot smoker = bad mom. no if's, and's or but's. It's a very narrow way of thinking, and this type of intollerant categorization of people somehow makes them feel like they are a "better mom" than we are. I chose to quit during pregnancy, but I still love the way it smells, and don't condemn anyone for their choice to keep enjoying it. I also belive it is important to be natural, not druging kids with "adhd"...probably the teacher isn't challenging the child enough, he gets bored, and acts up. The lazy teacher's answer is "dope him up so he'll behave". Sort of reminds me of SOMA. I also am very conscious of pharmaceutials... chemicals that treat the symptom and not the cause. Anyway, I STAND BY YOU and hope that you can at least understand that these "insulting" moms are just reacting out of their own limited experience. After all, it is still illegal, so they automatically think it must be bad, and wrong..you "law breaker", you. I know it's lame, you know it's lame, so all we can do is forgive them of their ignorance. Hopefully times will progress and society nationwide will become as aware as the progressive culture on the west coast.

I have been reading for sometime but have not replied for fear of being attacked. I'm trying to stay objective on both sides so PLEASE don't take me the wrong way!!!! Here is what I know. Mj does pa__s through the placenta and b___st milk. Higher doses are pa__sed through these organs than your kidneys. Mj is less damaging than smoking cigs, however there is a small risk just like with any drug, herb, medication, weather otc or perscription, it can cause cognitive and other developmental delays which may not show up until after the child's primary school age. Grade 4 or so. Infants systems are still developing and take a longer time to clean the blood of any chemicals or drugs. Ex. If you only have one hit your infant may experience 2 or three. The same rings true for alcohol which by the way is much worse. If you are slighly feeling dizzy from alcohol your fetus will be totally pa__sed out by that point. In kc's defense I think she is frustrated with her difficulty to have children and the thought that anyone would take such a small risk at harming a child upsets her. She would probably react the same way to someone drinking a soda with caffeine. In everyone elses defense. If you seriously do not think you are doing any harm to you child then try to be objective. If you are the type of person who would blame yourself if you child would turn out with some type of a problem or disability then please stop what you are doing. Sometimes the blaming yourself part is worse on you emotionally. I agree with kc in not taking any risks. I have seen first hand how mothers of sick babies blame themselves for hurting their child. It really eats them up inside. However I do think she was far too judgemental in her comments. Please don't attack me. I am generally objective and nonjudgemental.

Thanks for stating your poin tin a friendly, compationate, non-judgemental way.

Thank you. I really hope you all find a different site. It seems to me this one is just eating away at you all. This topic has two strong sides and you are either on one side or the other. It is nearly impossible to sway one to see your side. So the hurtfull comments will just get everyone in an uproar. Everyone take care and do the best you can for your children. Being a mom is the hardest job in the world. No one is perfect at it. Mistakes will be made by all.

I don't understand why they erased my post which I researched the topic that stated other sources, but they left a lot of other poeples' posts where name calling and insulting is involved. ?? anyway, if anyone is interested in researching the topic Visit your local library. There are plenty of journals that can cover this, such as JAMA ect. where if you researched online, the scholarly journals are not as available because you would have to pay for a subscription. There are plenty scholarly journals to look into at the library. I had listed the sources, but unfortunatly they were erased. I think this forum would be better off if actual research were involved. ;) enjoy the day

Just one more before I go ;) If you read the original question carefully, she states. "I really would like to be directed to real scientific research, not personal opinions." sigh... :)

and here is some real scientific research from the american academy of pediatrics saying that weed causes no problems and is even beneficial to the child and mother.... http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/93/2/254?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext =marijuana&searchid=1091465289770_8780&stored_search=&FIRSTINDEX=20&sortspec=relevance&journalcode=pediatrics and another http://www.pdxnorml.org/Pediatrics_Prenatal_m_exposure_0294.html and wow, i know exactly what you mean about the ignorance towards mj in some communities. luckily for myself i am in central arizona and it is pretty widely accepted here.