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Christina - I'm so sorry to hear that all of that is going on. I'm sure the stress of traveling soon is on your mind. I'm sure you've researched like crazy, but I found this on a website about the 2 scenarios you described: "Moreover, methotrexate may be superior because of its simplicity: in those situations where laparoscopic salpingotomy failure rates exceed 15% , it may be desirable to use a technique for which laparoscopic surgery skills are not required" - Let us know, keep us updated and we'll keep our thoughts with you!

Melissa/Nancy -- Good news! I just got off the phone with my dr. and she told me that I am all clear. It was not a ectopic pregnancy! You have no idea how relieved I am! I am so relived to be done with the D & C's. Luckily, I have no cramping and barely any bleeding so I think this will be a fast recovery. I don't think this vacation could come sooner. I think everyone should take a vacation when they have to suffer through pregnancy loss! Thanks again for being there.... I will check back to see how you guys are doing.

Hi Cristina & Melissa! I am so glad to hear from BOTH of you!! It makes such a big difference in how I am recovering from my loss - thank you both so very much for sharing yourselves with me! I am so happy to hear that you are okay, Cristina. Oh, what a tremendous relief for you and your family - I hope your trip will be everything you need. And I hope 2006 brings you a lovely baby!! Thanks again, both of you, for being here.

Hi, My Sister is currently going through something similar, On Wednesday she went for her scan and was told that she could not detect a heart beat but there was a sac and a baby there. Today she went to another to get checked again cause she is so nervous and cant wait till next week, they checked her then she began getting c___ps and a little bleeding. They told her to go home but to come back in the morning. I am really worried for her cause this was her worst nightmare and I don't know how she would handle loosing the baby but in my mind she won't because I still feel very positive. Is there any chance that she could still have her baby? Shes really big but shes only 8 weeks at the most but she looks much bigger than 8 weeks which has mad her think that she was much further on.

Hi Dale - There is always hope - But she also has to remember that these things happen for a reason - Miscarriages happen much more than people realize and sometimes, although it doesn't feel like it, they happen for good reasons for the mother and the baby. It's wonderful that she has a support system like you. Tell her to be positive too, and it's great that she got a second opinion...

Hi Nancy - how are you doing? How is that sweet boy? Is he ready for Santa? May the New Year bring you hope and courage!

Hi Melissa - Thank you very much, I forgot to add they her Cervix is closed, I don't know much so I don't know what exactly that means. I understand why it is sometimes good for miscarriages but I don't think my sister will see it that way, it is just a horrible time of the year to have something like this happen but it is all part of life, We are keeping positive but I just want everything to be okay so I am looking around for more information.

never did i anticpate going through this. i just found out that i miscarried yesterday. i was spotting for 3 days so i went to get checked out. like sameen, i was 8-9 weeks and no heartbeat. there was a heartbeat last week but the rate was slow according to my obgyn. today i am scheduled for the d & c and scared. all this is stressful and painful enough and now to go under with anethesia. what a freaking nightmare. i am however even more grateful for my beautiful baby girl of 2 years. Thank God for her. She is helping me through this. Thank you for allowing me to vent.

My sister went for another scan to day and she was told they found a heart beat and it has grown 2mm's :D Im so happy, She was bleeding yesterday though and I think still miight be but they told her it was common, I'm so happy. Thanks for your help and support.

Hi Dale! Great news! It's always good to get second opinions - keep us updated!.

To Lynn: I am so very sorry for your loss, lynn. You will be in my prayers and all I can tell you is that when I went through it I held onto my sweet little boy with all my might and he was a great source of love for me. Please take care of yourself and know that you are not alone, although it probably feels like it right now. We have been where you are and made it to the other end, but there is still the pain of loss and grieving and I personally cannot tell you how long that lasts, just that you are not alone. == Hi Melissa! Thank you for your kind thoughts. My little son saw Santa today and did not cry - well, he was going to cry until Santa gave him a candy cane! Who knew that I would have joy watching my son with Santa today after going through this pain. Well, I think you knew. Thank you!

I had an ultra sound today and found that I was 6 weeks and 5 days along and the heart beat was clear as day.

I'm glad to know that others have had similar experiences. I'm at 8 weeks and they saw a sac and embryo with a v____al ultrasound, but not heartbeat. My HCG levels are rising, but not as fast as they hoped they would. I go back Dec. 21 to see if they can find a heartbeat. This waiting it the worst.

Ali- I think it is very important to think positive.... Some situations come out alright and some don't though unfortunately. My situation was very simialr to yours... My HcG levels were actually soaring even a week after they didn't find a heartbeat. Your body can continue to produce the hormone for quite a while before it realizes otherwise. If you can hang on for a little longer, I would wait about a week and then go back for another sono. If in one week your baby has no growth and still no heart beat, then you know it was not meant to be. However there are always stories out there whereby they see the heart beat via a second opinion or a rescan of a sono, so I would opt to have a repeat to give yourself peace of mind. Whatever your decision, we are here to help you get through it since we have all been through the same thing. Best of luck and keep us posted!

Hi Melissa - I just wanted to let you know that today is especially hard. I don't know why, but I am so very sad and totally emotional. My brother is a single parent and has a 19 year old daughter (he had her when he was a teen), and last night she had a baby. I am feeling bad because part of me says "why is she so able to have a baby - she's not married, the guy is a bum..blah, blah, blah" and I know I do not have the right to judge another on their life, but she asked me to go to the hospital to see the baby and I just feel so sorry for myself. I got so mad that I slammed the trunk down of my car, while we were at the post office mailing presents and my bike rack crashed down on my face and gave me a huge bloody gouge on my nose! Then I sat in the car and cried like a baby, until Joshua started to cry! Thanks for listening, Melissa - I know it gets better because you've come back to say so and I know it still hurts but you have shown the courage to walk through it. Thanks!

Oh Nancy, I am so sorry to hear about everything. My heart just fell for you - but you know what? It does get better, and please make it your resolution to help your brothers daughter in her time of need, she's going to have a rough go of it with a bum for a father and being so young. Yes, you have every right to be mad, for right now, everything you are feeling is so normal - but don't let it get to you - it's ok to be p__sed at her - it's ok to be angry - but you have to let it stay at that... you can't let it consume your emotions. There are 4 people in my office that are pregnant right now - do I get upset? Yep, do I cry everytime someone has a baby and brings them in? Yep. But I don't let it consume me. My gosh Nancy - I am so very sorry. My heart hurts for you right now. And I've felt everything you are right now. You've got a new year coming up! Make some deals with yourself: If you conceive again - Hooray! If you don't - take a trip - give yourself a good reason to enjoy next year, whatever God brings you. My heart feels for you right now.