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Hi, ladies: i hope you don't mind i'm jumping into your conversation! i'm waiting for Valentine's AF- i've been having "different " cramps since about 3dpo. frequently i have ovarian cysts, but these cramps aren't like that. they're in the middle, dull, and more just annoying. i never get af cramps until the day i start, so this is weird. no bb soreness, nothing else but quite a bit of dizziness! anything else i should be doing while i'm waiting? sorry to be gross - but are you guys finding your cm on your panties, or are you feeling for it? you! this is my first time so i don't know what to look for..i'm 27 and in washington, d.c. ***baby dust to you all****

I feel for the cm. There seems to be so much lately that I don't have to look far for it. But if there is none on the outisde then I go in (tmi, stop reading if you want) and when I pull my fingers out they are covered in globs of white VERY creamy cm. (sorry) . . . I'm sorry jjlo, are you positive that it is af?

I do believe that it is AF. It is very bright red (tmi), although not as heavy as usual for the first day. I am really bummed, I really wanted this. I'm trying not to get too upset and stay positive for next month, but it really makes you wonder. I am sure that dh and I were ttc during O time and it makes you wonder if something is wrong with you. DH has children from a previous marriage, so I know it isn't him. I just feel that people that get pg on "accident" should feel so lucky and blessed because it really is a miracle that "that one time" they were able to conceive. Thanks for your support.

Hey jjlo! Im really sorry that you think af came! It is upseting! you'll be ovulating in Feb again, so technically this month isnt down the drain! Try to be strong! It will happen for us all when its meant to, I know that it just ticks us off when we hear that it is true when it comes down to it! I know it doesnt seem right, but be thankful that your husband has children and while they arent directly yours, you are their step-MOTHER! Be blessed you have them in your life! Hang in there-I feel like crying and I havent even had my af yet! lol-it sucks! god Bless and Ill be praying for u!

I'm so glad there is a recent post about this problem as I've been searching the net for a few days! I'm having the same symptoms as you guys, been ttc since July and getting my hopes up every month to no avail! It's so down heartening. This month I stopped doing my app tracking and just decided to have regular sex to see if it was any less stressful and it felt better! Now I think I'm day 20 of a 28 day cycle and for the past 2 days I have had cramping around where I imagine my right ovary to be. Very occasionally (and possibly in my head) I feel waves go across m whole uterus, but it seems more localised to my right ovary. It kind of comes on in full waves with a sharp stab at the end lasting just seconds, but every few minutes or so. I'm not sleeping very well at the moment and getting up to see a lot in the night. I've of course been reading all the symptoms so have been poking my bbs a lot to see if they're sore (of course they are once I've stopped poking), but ive had no bleeding or spotting, but quite "wet" down there which is unusual for me. I know I'm just desperate to be pg but I can't help but think this is it!

Oh also, at the onset of the cramps I thought maybe I was ovulating though late in cycle so did a home ovulation test which said no LH surge.

So since my last post the cramps became much more like period cramps, so I went to the doctor to check it out. Pain started Monday, doctor on Thursday. He did a urine test, BFN, then a blood test, results next day, BFN, so he said a suspected cyst. But it's now Sunday and I'm still having cramps a little bit, very big and sore bbs, headaches, tiredness, hunger, frequent weeing etc... So I am not convinced that it's 100% BFN. Period expected after Thursday so still hoping it never comes!