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I meant to say "whats going on with her" not me...

i am not a unbiased person, so why would i post unbiased facts? if she wants that she can google how many babies die from premature birth... hows that for cold hard and true? there is NO WAY her dr said sure lets go ahead..if they did they would be using cervidil and pitocin on her, not having her do it on her own this early... think about it... and DR's do not advise the use of herbs to induce thats what midwives do...dr's aren't about things like that... sorry... i have read several of kendras posts, even ones from over a year ago, where she lied about having like 6 miscarriages...etc... just to get attention (which if i may add isn't fair to woman who really did suffer a mc) and then she couldn't keep her stories straight so i am not apt to believe her now, when i know that almost every word she speaks is a lie i am not here to argue with you heather...i am here to state how DISAPPOINTED i am with the woman on this site right now... that poor poor baby... if he were ready there would be NO risk of the nicu being needed and they would have done an amnio to check his lungs if they were even considering bringing him early...i know plenty of woman who had babies early due to problems...and they all had aminos done to make sure their babies were going to make it ok on the outside... and i know they would have done anything to keep their babies in the full time instead of staring through the gla__s at their babies in the nicu, and kendras dd was in the nicu on oxygen from being born with premature lungs, why would she risk that again...because she is selfish thats why...and that makes me mad... that poor baby needs someone to speak for him since no one else is realizing that if he comes too soon it is going to be a hard painful journey for him.... why put him through that?? selfish once again thats all i can say is its selfish...

I'm going to post hopefully what should be unbaised facts. I love you all dearly so please forgive me but I HAVE to disagree :( My little guy was born at 36 weeks and 1 day so her not even being as far as I was makes me a bit uncomfortable. Him being in the nicu was pure hell......I really didn't show you guys pictures where you could see all the monitors, the iv in his arm, and the little incubator he was in at first. I guess being in that situation no matter what I say will make be biased. I wanted to have him because I was so terrified that 'knot' would tighten and he would die so my dr.'s best plan for my peace of mind and his safety was to do the amnio at 36 weeks and deliver him that day if his lungs were mature. Well they weren't and that's what sent me into labor and he just wasn't totally ready. Was he healthy? Sure, just shy of seven pounds, my beautiful little boy. H just wasn't quite ready for the world yet. Knowing afterward that there was no knot in his cord lik they thought I partially blamed myself because if it wasn't for me asking they wouldn't have done the test. I know at the time I was doing purely what I believed to be in his best interests but I'd give anything to take back that week he spent there.....even if it still meant me being pregnant lol a little humor as I was getting pretty sappy there! Anyhoo what I guess I'm trying to say, and again I hope you all don't think I'm a horrible person, is I agree it's best for her to try to take it easy, even if it is just a precaution. I wouldn't want her son to go through what mine did and I'm sure no one would. I don't know if you're even still around but try to hang in there mama and keep him growing as long as possible. I know you're in pain and it's probably driving you up the wall but I promise it's worth it. I know what you're going through, I felt lik I was in labor for 2 months straight myself but I'd do it for two more months if it meant having a healthy baby. Either way I hope your littl man is ok whenever he does make his appearance.

due to all her previous "contraction" issues being caused by UTI's then i will say yes hers are just BH, sorry but if they were constant like she says they wouldn't have sent her home without trying to stop them, but if they are BH then they will send her home like they have every other time.... grow up has actually been around a LONG time, as have i, and we have both watched kendra as she morphs from one person to another... from the girl who had 6 miscarriages and then to only having suffered one... she had a child born too soon so why tell me WHY she would risk that again...if she truly cared she would ask her DR to do anything he can to stop the contractions and help her keep her son in longer, you can see the holes in her story and you can tell what is false info that she feeds all of you so that you think she has her drs go ahead, but if you stop and think for 5 minutes you may realize that NO dr would say oh you measure a few weeks ahead... so lets go ahead and have you induce yourself even though we have no clue what condition your child is in... infact go induce yourself at home...nope sorry no dr in their right mind would do that...

aww kay, I know it was hard for you hon *hugs* and PLEASE understand Im not saying people should try to induce themselves early... I dont want you to think that of me. Im just trying to say that despite what we think is right or wrong Kendra and her doctors know her situation better than we do and if we disagree with her about something then give her facts or at least try to get more information and/or understand her situation better before jumping on her about it. *sigh* I just want everyone to understand that this is a place of support and encouragement and people should feel ashamed about things or scared to post here because they are afraid someone will rip their head off. Im not saying I agree with Kendra but who am I to tell her what she is doing is wrong when I dont know anything about her situation and I REALLY dont think that reading her old posts makes me an expert on the matter. anyway, I think Im going to stop arguing here. its making me angry and I was just trying to help out a friend.

and i am trying to help her baby, kendra is an "adult" her child has no voice so someone has to tell her how selfish she is being...and i am not at all convinced that her dr said lets go ahead and get that baby out because you hurt a bit long before she is full term... that poor poor baby if shes this selfish now...i can only imagine

see momma21 that last post of your is exactly what Im talking about.. its just plain rude and unnecessary.. its not helpful and its hurtful. I understand you dont agree with her but thats no reason to be mean and judgmental. if you dont like it then dont read her posts, and if for some reason you feel like you HAVE to "help her out" then do so in a way that doesnt belittle her, this site is to help and support each other, you CAN disagree with someone and not be a jerk about it.

Aha! I guess I missed something. If she's been contracting so often for so long why haven't they kept her any of these trips to l&d? They wouldn't send her home without stopping or controlling her contractions; that is unless they truely are the idiots she claims them to be yet takes their supposed advice to go ahead and try to force her baby to come now. Last time she was there they were stupid to tell her she had a uti and not stop her labor and now they've magically become intelligent when she hears what she wants to. Does that not seem right?

so now that we've gotten way off topic, and anyone coming on here wondering about brown discharge is totally freaked out of this forum....maybe we can have a thread called "preterm babies" and discuss it there. :) I totally agree that babies should stay in there as long as possible. My sister had a baby 4 weeks early and he had major problems, not from being born early but from some other issues, and died 2 months after he was born. I was there all the time, was with him when he died - and it's a very very sad place to be, the NICU. I would totally recommend anyone try to keep their little guy - or girl - as long as possible. What annoys me here is a__sumptions about Kendra - or ripping on those of us who don't read every single post on this forum - and know the "inside scoop" on someone. It's not very productive and now I feel insulted and annoyed. If someone is trying to induce early like that I would of course have something to say - I don't know anything about Kendra, just what I read in this thread. Anyways, can we please be nice?

momma21 I want to apologize, I realize I was doing exactly what I was trying to stop andthat is judging someone with out any information. I dont know Kenrda's history and I dont know yours... I still think that there is a way to disagree with someone with out being mean though. You have every right to be upset, with her and with me I suppose... I was just trying to defend a girl who I felt was being attacked. I got carried away so Im sorry for that. Im not condoning Kendra's actions but hey are just that... they are HER actions and I dont think I (or any of us) have a right to chastise her for them. again.. I am sorry for arguing with you. I really dont want anyone to think badly of me, I was just tying to her someone out who I though was being unfairly judged.

fefer Im with you... lets all just be nice LOL

grow_up.. that doesnt seem right at all.. I totally unerstand where you are coming from.. again, I don know anything about it so I couldnt give you an accurate opinion on it. I completely agree with you that her baby is preterm and could benefit from all the time he can get in the womb but like I said before its not my place to judge her... just like its not my place to judge you. you have every right to be concerned for her and her baby, Im not contesting that at all I just think there might have been a better way to get our point across...

i am stating things as i see them...and that is just what i do, i will NOT sugar coat things to be "nice" when in all actuality what she is doing is selfish. A real mother never puts herself before her child...when i was diagnosed with severe preeclampsia i told dh no matter what, that i wanted our child to live, i am 100% willing to do ANYTHING for my child... and so should she if that means just dealing with some painful contractions... she is NOT full term therefore her baby should NOT be coming out yet...there are reasons they say pregnancy is 40 weeks! not just whenever you get bored of being preg or get a bit uncomfortable... and yes everyone is cheering her on telling her how they HOPE that she goes ahead and has him... so what he can get stuck with tons of needles and spend his first few weeks locked in a box and NOT in his mothers arms free from needles and monitors... i just can't believe no one once said hey kendra i know you are uncomfy but your baby is not ready...just because your body starts contractions doesnt mean your child is ready, if it did then explain to the woman who go into early labor and lose their children....exactly... a child is a gift and yes it seems like pregnancy takes forever and it is uncomfy at times it is still no reason to rush it long before the baby is ready...

I'm sure you all have no idea half the things I'm referring to because you haven't read them and perhaps that's why I seem so harsh. Maybe if you're as bored as you say you can get a bit 'stalkerish' too and read some of the July threads. And yes I read your thread, the may thread, and the august thread because just like you, I get bored. She's had other moms telling her to stimulate her nipples, etc. and has been talking on and on about all the things she's doing to help herself go into labor and how badly she hopes she will today. I don't mean that as in "Damn I wish this was over! and I could have him now" I mean it as in she hopes to actually put herself into labor and have her baby that day. I'm all for helping things move along when it's time but this isn't it. If you really are as bored as you say just go read the last 2 threads and perhaps you'll understand what the hell it is I'm rambling on about.

gah Momma21.. Im not disagreeing with you!! you are right, the baby is premature, we get it... I dont expect you to "sugar coat things" but you dont have to be rude either. you are saying all these things that she "should" be doing becasue thats what you would do and while I agree with you that the baby "should" come first just because we think something doesnt mean everyone does or has to. If I said "hey Im blonde and I think everyone else should be too" you would think Im being absurd. I know thats a HUGE differendce but Im over exagerating to prove a point. just becasue you and I feel one way doent mean everyone does. NOW to reiterate my main point.. I am NOT here to defend her actions Im merely here to defend her. whether or not what she is doing is "right" shouldnt warrent an attack. like I said before if you disagree then tell her in a polite way and maybe try to gfind out more about why she is doing what she is doing... if she takes it the wrong way and argues then fine but I dont think people should just jump on her and furthermore I dont think people should rip on the people defending her. we are just trying to be supportive, and while we may agree or disagree with her about something we can still be here for her and try to help her out. I hope that makes sense cause Im done defending myself. Im sorry for arguing with you and I hope you dont think ill of me.

grow_up, maybe you are right... I agree I dont have the amount of information you do so you are right in that I dont know half the stuff you are talking about. also I would like to say sorry to you for saying you are creepy.. I didnt mean for it to come out like that I was just sort of caught off guard that you knew so much about her and her situation.