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Katarina, I am so glad all is well in your pregnancy. As I stated before I pray for all of you. I was wondering what was going on. I check this site a few times a week and nobody posts. Don't wait for anyone just post so we can see how you are doing. I was going to the Atlanta Maternal Fetal every two weeks. However, since they were not going to put in a cerclage my main dr. didn't see the need in me going. I put myself on a semi bedrest. Haven't been out in awhile. I am going out this Sat (tomorrow). I am going to register at baby r us. My friends and family are hosting a baby shower June 20th. I am so excited. I know it's awhile from now but hopefully things go quickly. Many women love being pregnant but after you loose a child you just want the process over so you can have the end result you beautiful baby. As for knowing the s_x of the baby I was like you at first Katarina. I didn't want to know told my husband I wanted it to be a surprise. However, as soon as the dr. asked if I wanted to know I said yes without even thinking. My husband was so surprised because we talked about waiting but I wanted to know. I talk a good game but when it came down to it I folded. Joker where are you girl? I was so happy when you came back only not to hear from you again. I hope all is well. You are also in my prayers. Ms. Monet how are the twins? Everyone else how is everything. This forum used to be alive now it's dying a slow death. Don't have to chat everday just want updates. You Ladies have inspired me more than you will ever know. God Bless.

Hi Everyone, I'm seeing a Perinatal Consultant as well as my regular OB. I was going every 2 weeks for the same reason as you KM... they were thinking of putting in a cerclage but now they have me coming every 3 weeks and hopefully we can stop seeing him soon since it looks like no cerclage will be necessary for me either. I'm glad that you mentioned the bedrest because I would love to chat with you about it. I want so desperately to have even semi bedrest. Not because anything is wrong. Like I said earlier this pregnancy is going really good especially now that I'm over the morning sickness (although it did rear it's ugly head this morning just out of the blue after about 2 months of no sickness... weird and kind of scares me too). Anyway, I just would prefer to be safe than sorry with this pregnancy. Like you said... "after you loose a child you just want the process over so you can have the end result, your beautiful baby". I completely agree and I just want to ensure that nothing happens. I have to work outside of the home (Although I have my real estate license too! We're so much alike!!!) so unless my dr agrees to put me on bedrest I can't just stop working right now. Fortunately my job is not stressful at all and I do sit most of the day but there are days that I'm required to get up and out of the office and I'm on my feet a lot on those days walking a lot outside in this GA pollen and heat and rain and that makes me terribly nervous. Because of how quickly I lost my last pregnancy (the actual birth was so quick and it happened at home not in time for me to get to a hospital) that I'm nervous that God forbid it could possibly happen just as quickly again and so I'd rather not chance it and do a lot of activity at least until I'm a little bit farther along... far enough that the baby can survive outside of my womb. KM it sounds like you may understand a little bit where I'm coming from. I think that I'm going to chat with my dr about it to see what he says when I see him again on the 29th. Good to get a chat started back up on this site!!! KB

KB talk to your dr. maybe he can tell your employer that it's not safe to walk around during this stage in your pregnancy. I know yesterday was hot!!!!! Be straight forward with him/her. I've learned since this last pregnancy to tell the dr. whether good, sad, disgusting/not disgusting anything that is happening to me and is on my mind. This is your child amd your body only you can look out for you. Had an ultrasound yesterday... the baby is measuring 21 weeks 4 days. I am so happy thought I was 21 weeks yesterday but looks like I am a ittle furtherin the game. I am so excited. I am just looking forward to the 3rd trimester. I feel good. I have a more positive mind this time around. God bless and keep in touch. PS, KB I am glad you won't need a cerclage.

HI KB just wanted to see how your dr appt. went. I hope all is well. katarina how is your pregnancy going so far? I am well. Have some discomfort here and there but nothing I can't handle. God bless to all.

HI KM! This site always locks up my computer for some reason. Maybe that's why not that many people are on here anymore?! Do you ever have that problem? Anyway, my appointments have gone well. I'm 22 weeks now. I was told that my baby is measuring big but they haven't said anything about the due date changing... they just told me that he's already fat! He was already over a pound at 20 weeks and his legs were measuring long but my husband is tall and big so that's to be expected. But the dr has stated that I will need to have a scheduled C-Section anyway due to the prior myomectomy so although I'm due September 4th they're planning to deliver a week before that date. I've had some jumps in blood pressure and some swelling in my feet and the occa__sional mild cramping here and there but it seems to be just growing pains. I'm hoping that everything is going well. I do get nervous sometimes because when I first started to feel my baby move I felt him all the time. Now, I guess that I've just gotten used to it and don't notice it as much anymore but it's scary because sometimes I can't remember the last time that I felt him move and I start to panic. But then again I'm only 22 weeks so it's not expected for me to feel him moving all the time right now. When I get farther along and he gets bigger then I'm expected to feel him move on a more consistent basis... it's just very scary! I've tried listening to see if I can hear his heartbeat with a regular stethoscope and I'm not exactly sure what I'm hearing! It's not clear enough or strong enough yet for me to hear it. I also bought one of those cheap fetal heart monitors from Baby's R Us and again... I can't tell what I'm hearing. I hear a bunch of noise in there but I have no clue what's the heartbeat and what's just the surrounding noise!!!

KM Williams-Thank you for asking about me. So far SO GOOD. Tomorrow will be 21 weeks and 3 days (that is the day I went into hospital with fibroid degenerations two years ago) and this time so FAR SO GOOD, they don't see any fibroids. My cervix is between 4,5-5 cm and I am still seeing Maternal Fetal Medicine every two weeks. I THANK GOOD EVERY DAY. I AM SOOOOO THAKFUL there are no words to express it.

Hi there ladies, I have read through the first forum and mostly the second and figured I may as well post. I too lost a baby girl at 20 weeks this January. The doctors can not decide if it was the fibroids or Incompetent Cervix. I had terrible pain for about 3 days before I lost her. I called the doctor twice that weekend and they said it was probably just growing pains. I has my 20 weeks us scheduled for that Monday. When I went in they said I was 3 cm dilated already. At that point it was too late for me. I was wondering if anyone had a similar diagnosis. At this point the doctors want to treat both. A myomectomy then cerclage once I become pregnant. So it is almost 6 months since I lost Olivia and I have resigned myself to having the surgery. I would like to have it ASAP because as you well know the quicker I can TTC. The scheduling isn’t going as smoothly as I had hoped. This road has been long and hard. All of my friends have children and most with no problems at all. I hear all the time “I have never heard of someone loosing a baby that far along” and it just makes me feel so bad, like something is wrong with me. Most people haven’t heard of fibroids either. Anyway I have really needed this forum just to help me feel sanity and hope. Thanks-Sarah

sjt23, I am sorry to hear about your loss. I lost my daughter at 19.5 weeks. To answer your question, I had contractions all day that Sunday(gave birth early Monday morning). I am 25 weeks pregnant on Monday and for this pregnancy I was told to go to a specialist and see if I need a cerclage. At 12 weeks I went and 14 and 16. However, since I did have contractions the specialist decided against it. He stated that most women with IC (incompetent cervix) have no contractions and just go into labor and since I had contractions to pretty much "just be cautious" . If you are considering a myo do your research on it and the dr. you want to perform it. I don't having any living children so being able to conceive and deliver a baby is very important to my husband and I. I wish you nothing but the best. I've been in your situation and in a way still in it. You never forget loosing a child especially that late in the pregnacy. Should you need to vent please feel free we all have been there. Scared about the surgery, nervous about the future. God Bless until I hear from you again.

I AM NERVOUS!! about everything. It feels like I am between a rock and a hard place. I can't go on without the surgery because I can't put myself in the position to loose another like Olivia (my fist and only pregnancy). I would be to scared the whole time (will anyway). I also don't like all the possible side effects of the surgery. I am 32, so clocks a tickin. I would have never thought that this would be such an ordeal. Sometimes I feel like I am trying to force something. I just know I won't rest until I have exhausted all of my resources. I have already seen a perinatologist for a pre-pregnancy counseling. He was the one who suggested cerclage. The doctors keep saying I didn't have contractions, but I am not so sure. I had pain to the point that I couldn't sleep for 3 days prior and on the day before the pain changed from constant to surges of debilitating back pain. Now, I have never had contractions before so I don't know for sure, but I would wager to bet that those were it. They couldn't catch any on the monitor that they had on me for 15 minutes and said what I was feeling was not consistent with contractions. I don't know. I just wouldn't want anymore unnecessary surgeries. I would do it of course if that is what it took. Anyway that is a long time from now. My husband says I am obsessed. Well, maybe I am it is what helps me get through the pain of loosing Olivia. And someones got to figure all of this out. I have my surgery scheduled for June 11. The surgeon is skilled and I am confident in him. I have 5 fibroids 1-intramural(4 cm) 4-subserosal (4-2cm). They think the bugger would be the intramural one. So I will need all the granny undie advice I can get. How soon after on the day of surgery did you guys try walking? Thanks, SJ

Hi there Sarah, I'm sorry I tried posting when you sent your first post but my computer kept locking up. Anyway, like KM I have a very similar story. Lost my son at 21 weeks March of 08. I had about 5 fibroids on top of my uterus (not on stalks just growing out of the top clustered together) and a intramural fibroid. I had an abdominal myomectomy in June of 08 so about 3 months after losing my son. The dr removed all the fibroids except the intramural because he said that it was too difficult to remove. I walked the same day of the surgery. I was ready to get healed and up and out of that hospital. Of course it depends on what your doctors and the nurses at the hospital will let you do. But the sooner you're able to walk the sooner you're able to get everything working. I think that you have to pa__s gas and have a bowel movement before they let you leave and walking helps to get all that started. I took a 6 week leave from work after the surgery although I didn't really need it health wise I was back to normal pretty soon but I did need the extra time for my mental health. Like you I was still grieving my son and wanted desperately to get pregnant again and have a successful pregnancy. I was 32 at the time and no living children. So I just desperately wanted a living, healthy baby. We began ttc'ing in September of 08 and got pregnant in November of 08. I am now 24 weeks pregnant. No complications so far at all. I am seeing a perinatal specialist who also thought that I would need a cerclage but my cervix has been nice and long each time so he said that I'm pretty much out of the woods as far as that is concerned but he is very concerned about preterm labor due to my last pregnancy so I'm still seeing the specialist every 3 weeks. I'm now 33 years old so I do understand the anxiety of wanting to get the ball rolling because after the surgery you have to wait til you heal before you can try again then it may take a while of ttc'ing before you actually do get pregnant so believe me... I do understand. I was 28 when my husband and i first started trying to conceive. I lost my first at 6 weeks to a miscarriage then we waited a couple of years and it took us a while to get pregnant with the second and we lost the second at 21 weeks and now we're on our 3rd pregnancy and praying for success this time but its really crazy to think that I've been on this rollercoaster since 28 and I'm now 33. I always saw myself with a house full of kids and now I'd just be thankful with one! Oh and I did have contractions... I could feel them every 3 minutes with my last pregnancy but like you I was at the hospital hooked up to the machine and the nurses told me the exact same thing that they told you that their machine was not picking up any contractions and that I just didn't know what I was talking about and what I was feeling couldn't have been contractions so they sent me home. I ended up giving birth at 21 weeks to my son at home because the hospitals machine didn't pick up the contractions. I've definitely learned to go with my gut with this pregnancy. Thankfully no complications but I can guarantee you that I rush to the drs office with every little twinge and they've just learned to accept it. My doctor is very understanding this time around and they hook me up to every machine any time that I'm concerned just to ease my fears. I wish you luck with your surgery and with ttc'ing in the future. Let us know how it goes! KB

Sjt23-I was in your situation as well. Lost my first pregnancy at 23 weeks and 4 days August 2007. I delivered a beautiful little healhty boy, who didn't make it. So we had a little funeral for him etc. During the whole pregnancy I had no idea I have fibroids, I was working 2 jobs and working out every other day in gym. I had fibroid degeneration pain for 3 days as well, called my dr. multiple times and was told the same thing , that it is just my ligaments stretching. Started to spotted and he still didn't wanted to see me. I finally called my old obgyn dr. in Europe (where I came from) and he told me that I am having contraction and I am in labor and should immediately go to emergency room. Unfortunately he was right, I was alredy dialeted, my cervix was open and after 2 weeks on strict bed rest in hospital I delivered my little baby boy extremely prematurely. I obgyn from Europe couldn't believe how irresponsible was my dr, he told me I should have been high risk pregnancy on bed rest since 2 trimester of my pregnancy. We even talked to the lawyers and tried to sue that obgyn. After all this I was so broken, confused and scarred what to do. I was told my fibroid was 10x9 cm (HUGE !!!!). I wanted to try again one more time, before I would have surgery (because I was extremely scared that I will not be able to get pregnant on my own after the surgery)but after I found amazing group of High Risk pregnancy dr.s was warned not to do it and have a surgery. So I had surgery January 2008, and it went amazingly smoothly, was walking the same day of the surgery, everything healed fast with no complications. Every since that day I thanks to God every night!!!!! AND second month after we were told we can TTC I was pregnant again. I am 23 weeks today. From beginning of this pregnancy I am seeing Maternal fetal medicine dr. every week for v____al ultrasound to check the status of my cervix. They were unsure if I need a cerclage just as the rest of you, but so far my cervix is closed, over 5 cm and NO FIBROIDS. I am still so scared to believe in healthy outcome, that I decided not to know the s_x of the baby, and will not buy crib, stroller etc until week before my scheduled c-section. It's seems that my c-section will be same week (last week of August) as the day I lost my little angel. Sarah don't be scared, I am 33 years as well, so I know exactly your feelings, but I just put my trust in God and was praying to him every night before I went to sleep for successful surgery and healthy pregnancy and I believe he listened to my prayers and knew how very important is this to me and my husband. So just put your trust in his hands and don't think about the worse. We all tend to do that. Just look at all successful stories you have read, girls who went throught the same and today are holding babies. So just try to keep positive (even thought it is extremely hard) and keep those stories in your mind and believe that your story will be sooner then you now realized one of them. Just believe and we will all pray for you.

You Guys...I can't believe how similar all of our stories sound. Its amazing it could be textbook. Why can't the doctors get it together and figure this out. See, I don't think I have IC, it was the gosh darned fibroids. You just know your body. The pain I was feeling wasn't just a coincidence. Hearing your stories makes me think that when I do get pregnant again (cause I know I will:) I will just do serial U/S of the cervix instead of the cerclage (another risky surgery). It reinforces my decision to have the myomectomy. I can actually feel twinges of pain where a couple of the fibroids are even with them being 4 cm. I would love to be fibroid free. I have actually read somewhere that there have been studies that women who become pregnant shortly after the surgery have less chance of the fibroids returning period. My RE said that I have the fibroids now (at 32) and they will only get worse and will someday require a hysterectomy anyway so I may as well try for a healthly pregnancy and get the myo now. I thought that it was a pretty good point. You ladies are such an inspiration. I am so happy for all of you who are well on there way to hearing the pitter patter of little feet. PLease keep posting because it is so good to hear the story through to the end. And keep going with your gut. If I have learned anything is that you have to be the advocate of your own health. And for those of you who are not preggers yet...It will happen, at least that is what I have to tell myself. I don't think people realize what a hard road this is. Even my friend who went to the hospital with me when I lost my daughter is tired of hearing about it. This forum is really a God send. I can't thank you enough. -SJ

Oh I forgot to mention...Katarinak1. I have thought about what I would do in the next pregnancy and I would probably do the same thing. At the last minute get the crib and all. See, with the last pregnancy I was peaceful and confident. I was more worried about keeping in shape and weight gain than most anything. Hind sight 20/20 eh? Who cares about a few pounds anyway!!!I know you need to be positive but its HARD. Its like I don't trust myself to know. OK I am rambling.....

Hey everyone. I hope all is well. I am doing great. 26 weeks on Monday. Time is going by fast yet slow. sjt and katarinak I thought about doing the samething. Getting all of the clothes and setting up the crib a few weeks before I am due but I've decided against that. I saw some cute baby girl outfits on sale 0-3 months and I had to get it. I am in your situation and I know exactly how you feel but if you have faith that all will be well and pray then it will be. sjt don't be afraid to ramble as you call it. You are just letting out your feelings. This site used to have alot of people and advice... it's not so much like that anymore. I guess everyone has graduated into motherhood and left. However, when I first lost my daughter I didn't know what to do or where to turn. I felt like a freak to be honest. No one knew what fibroids were and to loose a pregnancy that late just seemed unheard of to most but we understand. Anytime you feel like talking... typing do so. When are you going for your surgery? KB how are you girl? What's new? How is that boy is he moving around like crazy. Have you come up with a name? I am going to name my girl Amaya. katarinak, how is your pregnancy going as well. Write when you get a chance.

Hi Guys! I'm 25 weeks now. I had a bit of a scare because I ended up getting a UTI which I read if not treated early can cause preterm labor. I really didn't even know that I had one. I just noticed that I was going to empty my bladder a lot more than usual (like 2 to 3 times an hour) and I was having some abdominal pain. So I made an appt and went in and they tested and a couple of days later the culture came back and they told me that my instincts were right so I'm on antibiotics now. I wish that my dr would take me out of work. I honestly believe that I've had the infection for a couple of weeks now but due to work and a bunch of other stresses outside of work that I ignored it or over looked the symptoms that could have actually caused some serious problems for my pregnancy. But, I don't think that my dr believes in bedrest... even during the time that it's taking to cure the infection. Anyway, I'm rambling now! The baby is kicking up a storm. He kicks so hard that my belly jiggles. He turns a lot too and it's so weird to feel him turn. It's kind of uncomfortable. I was told that he's measuring big. I don't have a name yet. I'm just having a really difficult time with finding anything that I like. Because we are financially strapped and don't have a lot of family and friends who can help buy for us we're having to go ahead and buy baby items now whenever we can find them on clearance. We just can't afford to wait til the last minute to purchase items. I found a $44 baby bouncer on clearance for $10 because it was the last one. It's the really fancy cushiony one! Then we found a $79 stroller on sale for $20 because it was clearance too. Same thing with the changing table... we found it on clearance as well. And we found an infant carseat on sale too. Everything was brand new and never opened except the changing table which had some knicks and scratches but we got it fixed up and repainted it and it looks brand new. We already had the crib from the last time. But we wanted to get the high priced items out of the way so that family and friends who can afford to help us out can buy things for us like onesies and baby thermometers and pacifiers and bottles and etc. Anyway, I figure whether or not I buy anything what's going to happen will happen and I have no control over it so I'm really trying at this point to enjoy the pregnancy and enjoy decorating the babys room and just allow myself that much. But I do understand not wanting to do that after a loss. I didn't think that I would want to either but it's really bringing me a lot of unexpected joy especially finding really great clearance item deals!!! :-) Question for those who are pregnant around the 25 week mark (which sounds like a lot of us)... After sitting for a long time do you notice that when you stand if feels like the baby is balled up in the lower part of your pelvis? After sitting at work for a while and standing up it actually hurts and takes a second of me walking around and moving around to get that uncomfortable feeling to go away. I wonder if that's normal or if I should be concerned because it kind of feels like he's dropped and he's about to fall out of me as soon as I stand? KB

Hello ladies, I hope all is well with everyone today. I am feeling great, can't complain. KB I am so glad you got diagnosed and treated for your UTI. I hope there is smoother sailing from here on. Also, if you really want bedrest demand it girl. It's your body. As time goes on it's only going to get harder. Be upfront with your doctor you pay him not the other way around. As we all know these doctors have a way of b__wing us off sometime so after a loss like ours we have to be honest, demanding and straight up. I am so happy you were able to find items on clearance you got some great deals. I've been in a few stores but haven't purchased anything but 8 tops with matching undies they are so cute. Got 0-3 months paid $1.00 for them so 8 outfits for $8.56 is a d__n good deal to me. KB keep bargain shopping. To answer your question, yes I do feel exactly what you are talking about. I laughed out lound when I saw that. When I sit not everytime but very often when I get up it feels like the baby is in the lower part of my uterus. It feels funny/different for a few minutes and then it goes away. Whenever, that happens I just say out loud Amaya you sitting low sweetie. LOL. I never asked anyone but I am guessing since we both have it it's normal.