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GimmeaBub BY THE WAY you 5 day comment of PT doesnt apply here because i'm not talking about when pregnancy is established. The poster asked if it was early to tell if shes pregnant and most women will not a positive or a true answer until af is set to arrive or slightly just before. We are discussing averages here ...I test 3 days prior and yes i got a positive but in the medical world they recommend testing day of a missed period for a freaking reason. I'm sorry to inform you little girls but i am very well educated and i know exactly what i'm talking about .

lol...You have a disgustingly filthy mouth which is very ignorant . I will not move on ...where am i wrong?

Does it really matter Emma? You think you're knowledge is God's gift to this universe and ALL the girls on this thread disagree with you. You are WRONG that most women have 28 day cycles. Most women have anywhere from a 24-32 day cycle with ovulation occurring anywhere from cd10 - cd18. And you are right that the luteal phase is ALWAYS THE SAME. However, different for every woman. Some women have a 14 day LP, some have a 13 day LP, some have an 18 day LP and others have less than 10 which is called a luteal phase defect. I would suggest you stop fighting against a bunch of women who now not only disagree with you but are coming to dislike you immensely. Do you really want to be known as the b___h instigator, and if you don't care if thats what you are known as then you shouldn't be responding in the first place as you aren't contributing anything but random letters into internet space. Can this thread be done now? Anyone notice Army Girlfriend hasn't even responded? Oh yeah, and Emma I read on another thread that you are nearing the birth of your baby. You might just wanna chill cuz you are having some kind of "holy art I" complex or something. Could be the hormones, but seriously give it up.

You know what Emma!? You are seriously deranged. You stated numerous times that it takes 2 weeks yada yada. You are the one causing drama and trouble here no one else. But I guess you get off on that huh? It prolly makes you squeal. Anyways, I am still awaiting on any credibility to your statements. You have provided nothing. IN FACT you are trying to reword your previous statements to somehow make yourself correct. Sorry but you are an idiot and that is not going to happen. Stop calling everyone here who tells you that you are wrong illiterate as you have yet to prove yourself right. OH and no the 28 cd period is an example. Most woman vary and do not have a 28 day period. Seriously please stop making up your facts. Science has done a good enough job on their own and do not need you screwing it up.

YAWN....I'M WAITING FOR SOMEONE WHO WILL CHALLENGE ME WITH A BRAIN....LMAO! IT'S SO GOOD TO BE BACK.....I'LL JUST SIT HERE AND WAIT TO SEE HOW MANY CHICKENS WITH NO HEAD JUMP ON AND TRY TO GET THE LAST WORD

Its good to be back... if you haven't noticed all your "accomplices" now that I remember you well, have left and no one is going to back you up anymore. You used to be the best brown noser ever. Do you miss the smell of LIN's a__s?

Go ahead and keep avoiding my question. And does it make you feel all special to type in CAPS? Like you are being authoritve or something!? HERE LET ME USE THE BIG VOICE TOO!!! AGAIN YOU NEGLECT TO SHOW ANY EVIDENCE TO WHAT YOU ARE CLAIMING. ALL YOU ARE IS A DRAMA STARTER AND PROBABLY THE SAME PERSON RUNNING AROUND WISHING DEATH ON BABIES AND SUCH. HERE IS A REPLY I HOPE YOU NOTE. SHOW SOME DAMN EVIDENCE TO WHAT YOU CLAIM OR STFU!

How does it feel to fly solo without your puppeteers hand up your a__s saying the intelligent stuff so you can mimick it? How does it feel to have to come up with the intelligent argument yourself? OH wait!!! I forgot, I don't need to ask. I know first hand. You don't sound so intelligent now that LIN isn't their to mimick. LOL

Also I just wanted to say, IF you have a 1 year old child, why dont you go be a good mama and spend some time with them instead of showing your a__s here? There are better things you could be doing then sitting here arguing a point that dosent exist. THINK ABOUT IT!!

I am just going to jump in here for a second, since I took the time to read all the posts. First of all, you are all right and are actually saying the same things but different ways. Emma2 isn't stating anything different except to say its not likely to get a positive this early. Now, as some of you have noticed, some people DO get a positive reading at 10dpo and even 9 in rare cases. But, to give you an example, with my daughter, I had a positive reading after I was a week late because my hormone levels weren't concentrated enough. (Hence the reason, most doctors want you to wait until you miss your period, like Emma stated.) Also, testing too early can result in a positive reading and then lead to let down, because of a "Chemical Pregnancy". With my son on the other hand, had to find out through a blood test because the hormone count was so low for two MONTHS, that a stick test never gave me a positive. Bottom line, I agree with the poster's sister in law, the test the doctor did, has a greater chance of being incorrect verses accurate. Each month, you have a 20% chance of getting pregnant, and though in FEW cases, some will get a reading of a positive at 10dpo, and thing before that is unlikely and frankly, not going to be accurate. So, with that said, yes, for most, 2 weeks for the full process from Ovulating...is true. What makes everyone else correct, is that all women are different. If you run a cycle less than 28 days, then these percentages become off. As for saying most women run a 28 day cycle? That is correct. Most do. Now, that doesn't mean that most women run a perfect 28 day cycle each month like clockwork, it means on the "average" since cycles can be anywhere from 24-31 days. Either way, you ALL are correct in your logic. Its just that Emma is speaking on National Averages. That doesn't make her less correct or you all, less wrong. Hope this helps. ~

Army Girlfriend – Yes it is possible that you tested too early, especially if you are not tracking your cycle and do not know when you ovulated. Wait until your period is late and test again. Most docs won’t do a blood test until you have a positive test or are more than a couple weeks late.

Emma2 – Stress does harm babies. I am not going to state my sources as I am not up for debating this widely know fact. You can Google it or speak with your doctor.

Again - Emma didn't state stress didn't affect a child, she just stated at this early stage. Fact- Research published in May's edition of Clinical Endocrinology shows that from 17 weeks of age, the amount of stress hormone in the amniotic fluid surrounding the fetus is positively related to that in the mother's blood. This is the FIRST report of this relationship noted at such an early stage in pregnancy. Anything before 17th week, hasn't been noted by the American Medical Society as a direct relation of harm, due to stress to an embryo. Therefore, if a baby was lost before the 17th week due to a miscarriage and the mother was under a great deal of stress, it is still unlikely that the stress played the role. It may have been a result of an implantation that wasn't healthy.

Bottom line though - Stress is never healthy for anyone, regardless of pregnancy. But, being pregnant, for the health of the mother, stress is best if it can be maintained to a low even FROM conception, if you ask me.

Corrie - I understand your position but I was referring to the following posts, which do not indicate that she is referring to early pregnancy only. Name: EMMA2 | Date: October 24, 2007, 15:18 "Gimmeabub, stress does not harm babies , i dont know where you got that info but it is not accurate. " And Name: EMMA2 | Date: October 24, 2007, 15:32 "AND NO STRESS DOES NOT HARM ANY BABY IT HARMS YOU MORE THAN THE FETUS...YOUR DR. SOUNDS LIKE A QUACK JUST LIKE YOU" If we are going to provide information it should be accurate, especially if it is followed by an insult to someone else's intelligence. I am not trying to attack Emma but it would not be right for this young lady to think that stress will not hurt her baby because someone on a forum said so. As much as it is each individuals responsibility to make sure we have all the correct information to make sure our babies are born healthy, that doesn't always happen. In turn, as adults we need to take responsibility for the information we provide.

Stephanie- I agree completely. I was trying to give the benefit of the doubt that maybe Emma didn't truly believe that stress can't harm a child through-out any part of pregnancy. I took it as if she meant early pregnancy, but either way, I agree to your point and we are both on the same page.